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Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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What are the licensing implications of this? If I’m Google, I’d be pissed that my software is being used without a human there looking at the ads.

They just need to start tailoring their ads to things that bots might be interested in

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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This has existed for a long time, it's called "RPA" or Robotic Process Automation. The biggest incumbent in this space is UiPath, but there are a host of startups and large companies alike that are tackling it. Most of the things that RPA is used for can be easily scripted, e.g. download a form from one website, open up Adobe. There are a lot of startups that are trying to build agentic versions of RPA, I'm glad to s…

RPA has been a huge pain to work with. It's almost always a framework around existing tools like Selenium that you constantly have to fight against to get good results from. I was always left with the feeling that I could build something better myself just handrolling the scripts rather than using their frameworks. Getting Claude integrated into the space is going to be a game changer.

I can see it now, Claude generating expect scripts. 1994 and 2024 will be fully joined.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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What do you mean by “file” here? I’m making files on a daily basis, including CSVs, html, executable code, XML, JSON and other formats. It built me an entire visual wireframe for something the other day. Are you using artefacts? But I’m maybe misunderstanding your point because my use is relatively basic through the built in chatbot.

I asked it to generate a very basic Excel file. It generated text as Markdown. I reiterated that I want an Excel file with formulae and it provided this as part of its response: ---- No, I am not able to generate or create an actual Excel file. As an AI language model, I don't have the capability to create, upload, or send files of any kind, including Excel spreadsheets. ----

It does not have access to the Excel app. You may be able to generate the .xlsx file using python libraries but you would need to run the python code on your own. ChatGPT can run generated code, which is probably why it works there.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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This is actually a huge deal. As someone building AI SaaS products, I used to have the position that directly integrating with APIs is going to get us most of the way there in terms of complete AI automation. I wanted to take at stab at this problem and started researching some daily busineses and how they use software. My brother-in-law (who is a doctor) showed me the bespoke software they use in his practice. Runni…

LLM's are enabling a reimagination of UI. Wheres the biggest opportunity in UI that hasn't kept up to date? legacy and regulated software in the long tail. Thats the disruption opportunity for LLM's.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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I have to agree. I've been chatting with Claude for the first time in a couple days and while it's very on-par with ChatGPT 4o in terms of capability, it has this difficult-to-quantify feeling of being warmer and friendlier to interact with. I think the human name, serif font, system prompt, and tendency to create visuals contributes to this feeling.

The real problem with Claude for me currently is that it doesn't have full LaTeX support. I use AI's pretty much exclusively to assist with my school work (there's only so many hours in a day and one professor doesn't do his own homeworks before he assigns them) so LaTeX is essential. With that known, my experience is that ChatGPT is much friendlier. The Claude interface is clunkier and generally less helpful to me.…

How the heck is LaTeX a bigger problem than the customer noncompete clause whereby you can’t use it to make anything that competes? Can anyone name one thing that doesn’t compete with this? Absurd

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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> software errors often cascade Whereas software defects in design and architecture subtly accumulate , until they leave the codebase in a state in which it becomes utterly unworkable. It is one of the chief reasons why good devs get paid what they do. Software discussions very often underrate software extensibility, or in other words, its structural and architectural scaleability. Even software correctness is trivia…

Fundamentally there is human with limited brain capacity that got trained to that. It’s just a question of time when there are equally capable, and then exceedingly capable models. There is nothing magical or special about human brain. The only question is how fast it is going to happen. Ie what percentage of jobs is going to be replaced next year and so on.

> There is nothing magical or special about human brain.

There is a lot about the human brain that even the world's top neuroscientists don't know. There's plenty of magic about it if we define magic as undiscovered knowledge.

There's also no consensus among top AI researchers that current techniques like LLMs will get us anywhere close to AGI.

Nothing I've seen on current models (not even o1-preview) suggests to me that AIs can reason about codebases of more than 5k LOC. A top 5% engineer can probably make sense of a codebase of a couple million LOC in time.

Which models specifically have you seen that are looking like they will be able to surmount any time soon the challenges of software design and architecture I'm laying out in my previous comment?

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Honestly, this is going to be huge for healthcare. There's an incredible amount of waste due to incumbent tech making interoperability difficult.

It is. CTO of healthcare org here. I just put a hold on a new RPA project to keep an eye on this and see how it develops. According to their docs, Anthropic will sign a BAA.

Out of curiosity, how are high risk liability enviroments like yours coming to terms with the non-deterministic nature of models like these? Eg. the non-zero chance that it might click a button it *really* shouldn't as demonstrated in the failure demo.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Claude is absurdly better at coding tasks than OpenAI. Like it's not even close. Particularly when it comes to hallucinations. Prompt for prompt, I see Claude being rock solid and returning fully executable code, with all the correct imports, while OpenAI struggles to even complete the task and will make up nonexistent libraries/APIs out of whole cloth.

Does anyone know _why_ it’s so much better at coding? Better architecture, better training data, better RLHF?
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