Declaration of Internet Freedom

Post by morsch » Tue, Jul 03, 2012, 12:13 AM UTC

Gormo wrote: post #40

morsch wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a balancing act, no doubt. But for something like a declaration of internet freedoms I think it's fair to err on the side of being broadly representative. And I don't think it's anywhere as bad as you make it sound, it's ambiguous, but Don't censor the Internet. is not a vague, positive-sounding platitude.

Sure it is; it's just a slogan. "Don't censor the Internet" - Who are you talking to? What constitutes censorship? What actual means will prevent censorship, and how can we implement them? You're just saying that censorship is bad, which is almost a tautology, because the term itself carries negative connotations with essentially everyone: people who do advocate what you might describe as censorship aren't describing…

The same thing can be said about the bill of rights and similar documents, and there, fault lines do appear once you get into the details. That doesn't mean it's pointless to have these documents.

Post by bobds » Tue, Jul 03, 2012, 9:28 AM UTC

terryk88a wrote: post #19

Gormo wrote: post #11

If you look at a lot of old-fashioned documents like this - statements of principle, resolutions and declarations of one sort or another - you're likely to see a list of individual points, often making demands or other calls to action. But this will invariably be preceded by a preamble that indicates (a) who the specific people making the declaration are, and what their motivations are for doing so, (b) who the inten…

Vague indeed. For example, what does "universal access" mean? How about "free to connect"? Is this declaration demanding that access to the internet be free to all? As in no cost? The language "access" to this or that has been subverted in recent years to mean that the accessed resource should be free of charge. E.G. universal access to (free) healthcare. That is decidedly not what accessible means. So I won't be sup…

"Promote universal access to fast and affordable networks."

Affordable implies to me that they are not asking for free access.

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