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Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

#341

Reminds me of the rise in job application bots. People are applying to thousands of jobs using automated tools. It’s probably one of the inevitable use cases of this technology. It makes me think. Perhaps the act of applying to jobs will go extinct. Maybe the endgame is that as soon as you join a website like Monster or LinkedIn, you immediately “apply” to every open position, and are simply ranked against every othe…

> People are applying to thousands of jobs using automated tools

Employers were already screening thousands of applications using automated tools for years. Candidates are catching up to the automation cat-and-mouse game.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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post #285

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seeing models act as though they have agency gives me goosebumps (e.g. seeking out photos of Yellowstone for fun). LLMs don't yet have a concept of true intent or agency, but it's wild to think of them acquiring it. I have been playing with Mindcraft which lets models interact with Minecraft through the bot API and one of them started saying things like "I want to place some cobblestone there" and then later more gen…

What if they do and are just lying to us.

They don't now. No FF-LLMs do, simply because of their architecture.

But eventually they (RNNs, likely) will. And we won't know when.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

* Claude now identifies itself in chats to avoid endless chat with itself

What if a user identifies as Claude too?

* Implemented inverse CAPTCHA using invisible Unicode characters and alpha-channel encoded image data to tell models and human impostors apart.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

#344
This is actually a huge deal.

As someone building AI SaaS products, I used to have the position that directly integrating with APIs is going to get us most of the way there in terms of complete AI automation.

I wanted to take at stab at this problem and started researching some daily busineses and how they use software.

My brother-in-law (who is a doctor) showed me the bespoke software they use in his practice. Running on Windows. Using MFC forms.

My accountant showed me Cantax - a very powerful software package they use to prepare tax returns in Canada. Also on Windows.

I started to realize that pretty much most of the real world runs on software that directly interfaces with people, without clearly defined public APIs you can integrate into. Being in the SaaS space makes you believe that everyone ought to have client-server backend APIs etc.

Boy was I wrong.

I am glad they did this, since it is a powerful connector to these types of real-world business use cases that are super-hairy, and hence very worthwhile in automating.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Tried my standard go-to for testing, asked it to generate a voronoi diagram using p5js. For the sake of job security I'm relieved to see it still can't do a relatively simple task with ample representation in the Google search results. Granted, p5js is kind of niche, but not terribly so. It's arguably the most popular library for creating coding.

In case you're wondering, I tried o1-preview, and while it did work, I was also initially perplexed why the result looked pixelated. Turns out, that's because many of the p5js examples online use a relatively simple approach where they just see which cell-center each pixel is closest to, more or less. I mean, it works, but it's a pretty crude approach.

Now, granted, you're probably not doing creative coding at your job, so this may not matter that much, but to me it was an example of pretty poor generalization capabilities. Curiously, Claude has no problem whatsoever generating a voronoi diagram as an SVG, but writing a script to generate said diagrams using a particular library eluded it. It knows how to do one thing but generalizes poorly when attempting to do something similar.

Really hard to get a real sense of capabilities when you're faced with experiences like this, all the while somehow it's able to solve 46% of real-world python pull-requests from a certain dataset. In case you're wondering, one paper (https://cs.paperswithcode.com/paper/swe-bench-enhanced-codin...) found that 94% of the pull-requests on SWE-bench were created before the knowledge cutoff dates of the latest LLMs, so there's almost certainly a degree of data-leakage.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

#347

This needs more discussion: Claude using Claude on a computer for coding https://youtu.be/vH2f7cjXjKI?si=Tw7rBPGsavzb-LNo (3 mins) True end-user programming and product manager programming are coming, probably pretty soon. Not the same thing, but Midjourney went from v.1 to v.6 in less than 2 years. If something similar happens, most jobs that could be done remotely will be automatable in a few years.

Every time I see this argument made, there seems to be a level of complexity and/or operational cost above which people throw up their hands and say "well of course we can't do that".

I feel like we will see that again here as well. It really is similar to the self-driving problem.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

#348

They need to get the price of 3.5 Haiku down. It's about 2x 4o-mini.

Still super cheap

Precisely this.

Aider (with the older Claude models) is already a semi-competent junior developer, and it will produce 1kloc of decent code for the equivalent of 50 cents in API costs.

Sure, you still have to review the commits, but you have to do that anyway with human junior developers.

Anthropic could charge 20x more and we would still be happy to pay it.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

#349

Completely irrelevant, and it might just be me, but I really like Anthropic's understated branding. OpenAI's branding isn't exactly screaming in your face either, but for something that's generated as much public fear/scaremongering/outrage as LLMs have over the last couple of years, Anthropic's presentation has a much "cosier" veneer to my eyes. This isn't the Skynet Terminator wipe-us-all-out AI, it's the adorable…

> This isn't the Skynet Terminator wipe-us-all-out AI, it's the adorable grandpa with a bag of werthers wipe-us-all-out AI, and that means it's going to be OK.

Ray: I tried to think of the most harmless thing. Something I loved from my childhood. Something that could never ever possibly destroy us. Mr. Stay Puft!

Venkman: Nice thinkin', Ray.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

#350
post #344

This is actually a huge deal. As someone building AI SaaS products, I used to have the position that directly integrating with APIs is going to get us most of the way there in terms of complete AI automation. I wanted to take at stab at this problem and started researching some daily busineses and how they use software. My brother-in-law (who is a doctor) showed me the bespoke software they use in his practice. Runni…

You don’t know for a fact that those two specific packages don’t have supported APIs. Just because the user doesn’t know of any API doesn’t mean none exists. The average accountant or doctor is never going to even ask the vendor “is there an API” because they wouldn’t know what to do with one if there was.
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