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Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by nuancebydefault »

joshdavham wrote: post #75
KingOfCoders wrote: post #3

I have been a paying ChatGPT customer for a long time (since the very beginning). Last week I've compared ChatGPT to Claude and the results (to my eye) were better, the output better structured and the canvas works better. I'm on the edge of jumping ship.

> I'm on the edge of jumping ship. Yeah I think I might also jump ship. It’s just that chatGPT now kinda knows who I am and what I like and I’m afraid of losing that. It’s probably not a big deal though.

Wow that's a new form of Vendor lock-in. Their software knows me better in stead of the other way around.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by wholinator2 »

accrual wrote: post #121
highwaylights wrote: post #81

Completely irrelevant, and it might just be me, but I really like Anthropic's understated branding. OpenAI's branding isn't exactly screaming in your face either, but for something that's generated as much public fear/scaremongering/outrage as LLMs have over the last couple of years, Anthropic's presentation has a much "cosier" veneer to my eyes. This isn't the Skynet Terminator wipe-us-all-out AI, it's the adorable…

I have to agree. I've been chatting with Claude for the first time in a couple days and while it's very on-par with ChatGPT 4o in terms of capability, it has this difficult-to-quantify feeling of being warmer and friendlier to interact with. I think the human name, serif font, system prompt, and tendency to create visuals contributes to this feeling.

The real problem with Claude for me currently is that it doesn't have full LaTeX support. I use AI's pretty much exclusively to assist with my school work (there's only so many hours in a day and one professor doesn't do his own homeworks before he assigns them) so LaTeX is essential.

With that known, my experience is that ChatGPT is much friendlier. The Claude interface is clunkier and generally less helpful to me. I also appreciate the wider text display in ChatGPT. Generally always my first go and i only go to claude/perplexity when i hit a wall (pretty often) or i run out of free queries for the next couple hours.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by jprete »

minimaxir wrote: post #95
highwaylights wrote: post #81

Completely irrelevant, and it might just be me, but I really like Anthropic's understated branding. OpenAI's branding isn't exactly screaming in your face either, but for something that's generated as much public fear/scaremongering/outrage as LLMs have over the last couple of years, Anthropic's presentation has a much "cosier" veneer to my eyes. This isn't the Skynet Terminator wipe-us-all-out AI, it's the adorable…

Anthropic has recently begun a new, big ad campaign (ads in Times Square) that more-or-less takes potshots at OpenAI. https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1g9e0za/anthro...

Top comment at the time I looked:

"There seems to be a ton of confusion about the purpose of these ads. These are recruitment ads, not product ads, hence why "no drama" is the driving message. I'm sure these were all taken at or around a tech conference."

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by hubraumhugo »

I've seen quite a few YC startups working on AI-powered RPA, and now it looks like a foundational model player is directly competing in their space. It will be interesting to see whether Anthropic will double down on this or leave it to third-party developers to build commercial applications around it.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by gerash »

The "computer use" demos are interesting.

It's a problem we used to work on and perhaps many other people have always wanted to accomplish since 10 years ago. So it's yet to be seen how well it works outside a demo.

What was surprising was the slow/human speed of operations. It types into the text boxes at a human speed rather than just dumping the text there. Is it so the human can better monitor what's happening or is it so it does not trigger Captchas ?

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by ctoth »

gzer0 wrote: post #182

One of the funnier things during training with the new API (which can control your computer) was this: "Even while recording these demos, we encountered some amusing moments. In one, Claude accidentally stopped a long-running screen recording, causing all footage to be lost. Later, Claude took a break from our coding demo and began to peruse photos of Yellowstone National Park." [0] https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/1…

Next release patch notes:

* Fixed bug where Claude got bored during compile times and started editing Wikipedia articles to claim that birds aren't real

* Blocked news.ycombinator.com in the Docker image's hosts file to avoid spurious flamewar posts (Note: The site is still recovering from the last insident)

* Addressed issue of Claude procrastinating on debugging by creating elaborate ASCII art in Vim

* Patched tendency to rickroll users when asked to demonstrate web scraping"

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by minimaxir »

jprete wrote: post #194
minimaxir wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anthropic has recently begun a new, big ad campaign (ads in Times Square) that more-or-less takes potshots at OpenAI. https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1g9e0za/anthro...

Top comment at the time I looked: "There seems to be a ton of confusion about the purpose of these ads. These are recruitment ads, not product ads, hence why "no drama" is the driving message. I'm sure these were all taken at or around a tech conference."

That comment is wrong, it appears this campaign is much wider.

SF: https://x.com/_claudiazhao/status/1815463380767121733/photo/...

LA: https://x.com/michaelmiraflor/status/1840797631095964110/pho...

Boston: https://x.com/moloneymike/status/1842203082374946851/photo/1

London: https://x.com/maria_axente/status/1805607576156979673/photo/...

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by quantadev »

gzer0 wrote: post #182

One of the funnier things during training with the new API (which can control your computer) was this: "Even while recording these demos, we encountered some amusing moments. In one, Claude accidentally stopped a long-running screen recording, causing all footage to be lost. Later, Claude took a break from our coding demo and began to peruse photos of Yellowstone National Park." [0] https://x.com/AnthropicAI/status/1…

I think the best use case for AI `Computer Use` would be a simple positioning of the mouse and asking for conformation before a click. For most use cases this is all people will want/need. If you don't know how to do something, it is basically teaching you how, in this case, rather than taking full control and doing things so fast you don't have time to stop of going rogue.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Post by coder543 »

dragonwriter wrote: post #171
abeppu wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The confusing choice they seem to have made is that "Claude 3.5 Sonnet" is a name, rather than 3.5 being a version. In their view, the model "version" is now `claude-3-5-sonnet-20241022` (and was previously `claude-3-5-sonnet-20240620`). https://docs.anthropic.com/en/docs/about-claude/models

OpenAI does exactly the same thing, by the way; the named models also have dated versions. For instance, there current models include (only listing versions with more than one dated version for the same "name" version): gpt-4o-2024-08-06 gpt-4o-2024-05-13 gpt-4-0125-preview gpt-4-1106-preview gpt-4-0613 gpt-4-0314 gpt-3.5-turbo-0125 gpt-3.5-turbo-1106

On the one hand, if OpenAI makes a bad choice, it’s still a bad choice to copy it.

On the other hand, OpenAI has moved to a naming convention where they seem to use a name for the model: “GPT-4”, “GPT-4 Turbo”, “GPT-4o”, “GPT-4o mini”. Separately, they use date strings to represent the specific release of that named model. Whereas Anthropic had a name: “Claude Sonnet”, and what appeared to be an incrementing version number: “3”, then “3.5”, which set the expectation that this is how they were going to represent the specific versions.

Now, Anthropic is jamming two version strings on the same product, and I consider that a bad choice. It doesn’t mean I think OpenAI’s approach is great either, but I think there are nuances that say they’re not doing exactly the same thing. I think they’re both confusing, but Anthropic had a better naming scheme, and now it is worse for no reason.

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