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Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

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Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

#31
This bolsters my opinion that OpenAI is falling rapidly behind. Presumably due to Sam's political machinations rather than hard-driving technical vision, at least that's what it seems like, outside looking in.

Computer use seems it might be good for e2e tests.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

#32

I have been a paying ChatGPT customer for a long time (since the very beginning). Last week I've compared ChatGPT to Claude and the results (to my eye) were better, the output better structured and the canvas works better. I'm on the edge of jumping ship.

For python, at least, Sonnet’s code is much more elegant, well composed, and thoughtfully written. It also seems to be biased towards more recent code, whereas the gpt models can’t even properly write an api call to itself.

o1 is pretty decent as a rotor rooter, ie the type of task that requires both lots of instruction as well as lots of context. I honestly think it works half as well as it does now because it’s able to properly mull through the true intent of the user that usually takes the multiple shots that nobody has the patience to do.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

#34

Looks like it just takes a screenshot and can't scroll so it might miss things. Claude 3.5 Haiku will be released later this month.

It can actually scroll.

While we expect this capability to improve rapidly in the coming months, Claude's current ability to use computers is imperfect. Some actions that people perform effortlessly—scrolling, dragging, zooming—currently present challenges for Claude and we encourage developers to begin exploration with low-risk tasks.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

#35
post #9

I still feel like the difference between Sonnet and Opus is a bit unclear. Somewhere on Anthropic's website it says that Opus is the most advanced, but on other parts it says Sonnet is the most advanced and also the fastest. The UI doesn't make the distinction clear either. Then on Perplexity, Perplexity says that Opus is the most advanced, compared to Sonnet. And finally, in the table in the blogpost, Opus isn't eve…

Opus hasn't yet gotten an update from 3 to 3.5, and if you line up the benchmarks, the Sonnet "3.5 New" model seems to beat it everywhere.

I think they originally announced that Opus would get a 3.5 update, but with every product update they are doing I'm doubting it more and more. It seems like their strategy is to beat the competition on a smaller model that they can train/tune more nimbly and pair it with outside-the-model product features, and it honestly seems to be working.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

#36
This looks quite fantastic!

Nice improvements in scores across the board, e.g.

> On coding, it [the new Sonnet 3.5] improves performance on SWE-bench Verified from 33.4% to 49.0%, scoring higher than all publicly available models—including reasoning models like OpenAI o1-preview and specialized systems designed for agentic coding.

I've been using Sonnet 3.5 for most of my AI-assisted coding and I'm already very happy (using it with the Zed editor, I love the "raw" UX of its AI assistant), so any improvements, especially seemingly large ones like this are very welcome!

I'm still extremely curious about how Sonnet 3.5 itself, and its new iteration are built and differ from the original Sonnet. I wonder if it's in any way based on their previous work[0] which they used to make golden-gate Claude.

[0]: https://transformer-circuits.pub/2024/scaling-monosemanticit...

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

#37

From the computer use video demo, that's a lot of API calls. Even though Claude 3.5 Sonnet is relatively cheap for its performance, I suspect computer use won't be. It's a very good idea that Anthropic upfront that it isn't perfect. And it's guaranteed that there will be a viral story where Claude will accidentally delete something important with it. I'm more interested in Claude 3.5 Haiku, particularly if it is inde…

It's just bizarre to force a computer to go through a GUI to use another computer. Of course it's going to be expensive.

Re: Computer use, a new Claude 3.5 Sonnet, and Claude 3.5 Haiku

#40
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Opus has been stuck on 3.0, so Sonnet 3.5 is better for most things as well as cheaper.

> Opus has been stuck on 3.0, so Sonnet 3.5 is better So for example, Perplexity is wrong here implying that Opus is better than Sonnet? https://i.imgur.com/N58I4PC.png

I think as of this announcement that is indeed outdated information.
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