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Re: Ask HN: How to Learn 'To Think'?

#11
I have the opposite problem.

I get “intrusive” thoughts about ideas/anything as a stream of information passively. Not intrusive in the sense that it’s bad stuff (it’s all positive/good thinking) but I literally can’t “switch it off” and it hits me no matter what activity I’m doing. Makes relaxing hard

Sometimes it’s an overwhelming amount of thoughts, so I always keep a journal or phone handy especially at night

No idea how to stop it, medication seems to be the only fix

Re: Ask HN: How to Learn 'To Think'?

#12
Logic puzzles and taking notes.

The several comments suggesting mathematics and logic from scratch are spot on. This can be a bit overwhelming and dispiriting though. An alternative (or really a supplement) to an elementary proofs text is Raymond Smullyan's books of logic puzzles. Smullyan strikes the right balance between fun and substance.

The second idea is to try taking notes. Grab the latest copy of your favorite magazine (mine is Foreign Affairs) and write about the articles as you read them. What did the article say? How does it relate to the prior articles? Common topic? Contrary opinions? How does it relate to other things you've read in the past?

Asking these questions as you read can help to foster an internal dialogue and help you remember what you read and give direction on what to read next.

It's how I advise students who are reading academic papers for the first time and get overwhelmed by diving into the deep end of some subfield.

Re: Ask HN: How to Learn 'To Think'?

#13
You might find the book: "Conceptual Blockbusting", James L. Adams helpful. It contains thoughts and activities that focus on the 'process of thinking' or problem solving. And how we go about characterizing a problem or situation.

One of the best I've read on how to think about thinking.

Re: Ask HN: How to Learn 'To Think'?

#14
Writing is very underrated way of thinking, but I can recommend it highly. Start journaling and/or writing essays. Just write down what you think, feel, want to communicate, and what you understand. Just be clear and honest. pg has repeatedly written about this [0]. You can also choose to write technical posts.

Solving Math problems and competitive programming problems also enhace thinking.

Teaching is an underrated way, too. When you teach a hard concept, you really need to think a lot about how to get the idea across, how to make it accessible to different kinds of pupils.

[0]: https://paulgraham.com/writing44.html

Re: Ask HN: How to Learn 'To Think'?

#15
You should start by caring about something so much that you want to both understand it and affect it somehow. When you begin to piece together the system, a model of what you care about, and can begin to imagine how moving one piece will affect another, then you'll be thinking.

I think your question, in and of itself, is a language trap. It's too abstract, and abstractions often fail to motivate. I fell into the same language trap in college. I thought that some wizard teaching philosophy behind the curtain would teach me how to think. But you won't find the secret to thought in the symbols of the analytic philosophers, nor in the cogitations of the continentals.

Roland Barthes once said "Je ne pense qu'aimant," which translates roughly as "I cannot think except by loving." And he didn't mean that love itself was thought, but just that it was only fascination with a subject that drove him to think about it.

I think you should get out of your head, connect to the world, begin to care about some part of it, and let that lead you toward some subject-specific form of thought:

More on same here: https://open.substack.com/pub/vonnik/p/a-few-ideas-that-made...

Re: Ask HN: How to Learn 'To Think'?

#16

I have the opposite problem. I get “intrusive” thoughts about ideas/anything as a stream of information passively. Not intrusive in the sense that it’s bad stuff (it’s all positive/good thinking) but I literally can’t “switch it off” and it hits me no matter what activity I’m doing. Makes relaxing hard Sometimes it’s an overwhelming amount of thoughts, so I always keep a journal or phone handy especially at night No…

Have you been checked for ADHD? I think this is a common problem for people who has ADHD, I got diagnosed in college, that's when I realized normal people don't have that much thoughts usually.

Re: Ask HN: How to Learn 'To Think'?

#17
I think this post is your first step, so kudos to this!, I think philosophy books help, you can read some basic philosophy, pause and write down what you think, instead of internal voice, you can make texts as a bridge between your thoughts and yourself.

Re: Ask HN: How to Learn 'To Think'?

#18
I took a (turned into multiple) philosophy classes that forced me to explain hard concepts and my opinions on them to other people and then understand their perspective. I think this applies to many hard, deeply technical, subjects, but discussion is immensely popular in the pedagogy of philosophy.

The harder and more valuable part was putting those discussions into focused, clear, essays. I am a much better writer and thinker because of it.

The best way to learn how to think is to think. The way in which the quality of your thinking is best judged is in relation to other people. So just try a take your thoughts and try and put them in other people’s minds.

Re: Ask HN: How to Learn 'To Think'?

#19
Great first step asking for help and seeking to improve. :) I would like to point out that a lot of people don't have internal monologues. There are many ways to think and many ways to be smart. Internal monologue is not a requirement. I have it myself so I cannot give advice on how to think without, but just bear in mind that it isn't required.
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