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The iPhone and Disruption: Five Years In

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Re: The iPhone and Disruption: Five Years In

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Yes. It's the iPhone disruption... That over half the market there that's android? Doesn't count cus they entered later (well they were working on it before but launched later) and therefore nothing they contributed counts. Yes clearly

"All of this, because of the iPhone."

Re: The iPhone and Disruption: Five Years In

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post #3

Yes. It's the iPhone disruption... That over half the market there that's android? Doesn't count cus they entered later (well they were working on it before but launched later) and therefore nothing they contributed counts. Yes clearly "All of this, because of the iPhone."

Look at Android before and after the iPhone was announced:

http://www.tekgadg.com/storage/Android_before_after_iphone_t...

Gruber & his audience know (believe? Is there doubt?) that.

Re: The iPhone and Disruption: Five Years In

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post #3

Yes. It's the iPhone disruption... That over half the market there that's android? Doesn't count cus they entered later (well they were working on it before but launched later) and therefore nothing they contributed counts. Yes clearly "All of this, because of the iPhone."

Well, Android certainly hopped on, but most of the basic innovations and vision came from the iPhone and Android took them and did their own thing with them. They copied. Apple, Microsoft, IBM, Dell, HP, etc. all have taken turns copying their peers at something. Good for them, it is the right decision. Otherwise, Android would have turned out a lot more like the Microsoft Kin.

Re: The iPhone and Disruption: Five Years In

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post #3

Yes. It's the iPhone disruption... That over half the market there that's android? Doesn't count cus they entered later (well they were working on it before but launched later) and therefore nothing they contributed counts. Yes clearly "All of this, because of the iPhone."

The iPhone very clearly disrupted the market for mobile phones. Whether or not someone else had the same idea at the same time (but couldn’t bring a disruptive product to the market) doesn’t really matter. Current market shares don’t really matter.

This Android defensiveness is getting on my nerves. Worse than rabid Apple fanboys in the 90s.

Re: The iPhone and Disruption: Five Years In

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post #4
post #3

Yes. It's the iPhone disruption... That over half the market there that's android? Doesn't count cus they entered later (well they were working on it before but launched later) and therefore nothing they contributed counts. Yes clearly "All of this, because of the iPhone."

Look at Android before and after the iPhone was announced: http://www.tekgadg.com/storage/Android_before_after_iphone_t... Gruber & his audience know (believe? Is there doubt?) that.

I played with the Android SDK back in 2007. It was totally a BB clone before the iPhone came along. Granted, Android was designed to support multiple resolutions and form factors, but the default was a BB-like device until 2008.

Re: The iPhone and Disruption: Five Years In

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post #3

Yes. It's the iPhone disruption... That over half the market there that's android? Doesn't count cus they entered later (well they were working on it before but launched later) and therefore nothing they contributed counts. Yes clearly "All of this, because of the iPhone."

The iPhone very clearly disrupted the market for mobile phones. Whether or not someone else had the same idea at the same time (but couldn’t bring a disruptive product to the market) doesn’t really matter. Current market shares don’t really matter. This Android defensiveness is getting on my nerves. Worse than rabid Apple fanboys in the 90s.

imo, the android defensiveness stems from the rabid Apple fanboys of the past ~5 years (eg daring fireball).

Re: The iPhone and Disruption: Five Years In

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post #3

Yes. It's the iPhone disruption... That over half the market there that's android? Doesn't count cus they entered later (well they were working on it before but launched later) and therefore nothing they contributed counts. Yes clearly "All of this, because of the iPhone."

June 2007: iPhone launches

July 2008: iPhone 3G

October 2008: HTC Dream, aka T-Mobile G1, the first Android phone, launches: has both touchscreen and keyboard

June 2009: iPhone 3GS launches

October 2009: Motorola Droid and the big Verizon advertising campaign starts making a dent into the iPhone market share.

Re: The iPhone and Disruption: Five Years In

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The biggest disruption being that the phone, mp3 player, email, etc. were just "apps" and none was any more important than the others. So, instead of making a phone that is great for just one segment (see the ill fated ESPN phone), the phone is now a platform with personalized features for each user via apps and it's always on, always connected, always up to date.

Funny enough, the web is being disrupted by smartphone apps and yet web devs are crying "fad" just like the hardware guys were yelling "fad" when the iPhone came out, but web apps on desktops aren't growing like mobile is (http://www.avc.com/a_vc/2012/07/mobile-is-where-the-growth-i...)... and so what happens to all the web app companies who are just hoping mobile doesn't kill their web apps or web sites?

In many industries it's as simple as making a product that does 80% or 20% of what the leading product does, but has a iPhone, iPad, Android app and you're likely to make sales on that fact alone. It's like going from desktop to web all over again.

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