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Re: Twitch blocks creating new accounts from Israeli IP's

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Twitch recently unbanned two rather anti-semitic individuals in the form of “FreshAndFit” and “sneako”, which makes this decision all the more perplexing. Do they want to appear as if they are anti-semitic?

Worth pointing out that FnF and Sneako are actual far-right anti-semites and not just the generic left-wing pro-Palestine activists.

Yeah, for many people in the US, vision is usually tunneled to 2 sides. But out there are many sides.

Re: Twitch blocks creating new accounts from Israeli IP's

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I don't usually comment on here, I just lurk but this whole week has been super weird when it comes to twitch. Letting antisemites back on the platform, never punishing people literally spreading terrorist propaganda. Destiny (the streamer not the game) alleges that this block has been in place since october 13th of last year, but for now the only solid proof is that it has been in place since may of this year so tak…

Racial tier list?

Jayzus, I don’t want to invoke Godwin, but it sort of invokes itself…

Re: Twitch blocks creating new accounts from Israeli IP's

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Indeed. There’s a whole ‘nother controversy on the platform (which the tweet poster is a part of), but that’s far less clear cut than those two.

I thought that "FreshAndFit" were more associated with The Manosphere and Andrew Tate-like topics[1] than they were with the far-right and Israel. I also recall reading somewhere that the name is an online redpill euphemism for underage girls, too, which if true, somehow manages to make it even more problematic than anti-semitism does. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresh_and_Fit_Podcast

> more associated with The Manosphere and Andrew Tate-like topics[1] than they were with the far-right

[Insert "The Office" "They're the same picture" meme here.]

Like, seriously, these are not meaningfully separate groups. One is a subset of the other.

Re: Twitch blocks creating new accounts from Israeli IP's

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It is well known that Israel uses botnets and user-controlled fake accounts to steer public opinion in social media. Reddit, youtube, instagram and lots of media outlets are flooded with pro-israeli propaganda or massive downvoting to any critizism against Israel. Also here in hacker news...

Here on HN I tend to see the opposite: lots of staunch anti-israelism, sometimes bordering on plain old antisemitism, along with these statements like yours. I have showdead and showflagged enabled, yet I don’t see the flood of propaganda you keep talking about.

I imagine @dang is pretty on top of clapping antisemitic comments on this platform, he’s not one to mess around.

I worry that softening the definition of antisemitism by saying things border on it is ultimately weakening the severity of the accusation long term. Like bigot and pedo, antisemite will soon be relegated to just another empty accusation before long.

Re: Twitch blocks creating new accounts from Israeli IP's

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. There’s a whole ‘nother controversy on the platform (which the tweet poster is a part of), but that’s far less clear cut than those two.

I thought that "FreshAndFit" were more associated with The Manosphere and Andrew Tate-like topics[1] than they were with the far-right and Israel. I also recall reading somewhere that the name is an online redpill euphemism for underage girls, too, which if true, somehow manages to make it even more problematic than anti-semitism does. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fresh_and_Fit_Podcast

See this article from Media Matters for America: https://www.mediamatters.org/rumble/right-wing-dating-podcas...

To pick a recent tweet (warning about content as per usual): https://xcancel.com/MyronGainesX/status/1846656922143150534

> Kicker? You'll never guess what his mom is...

(Drake’s mother is Jewish.)

Re: Twitch blocks creating new accounts from Israeli IP's

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I don't usually comment on here, I just lurk but this whole week has been super weird when it comes to twitch. Letting antisemites back on the platform, never punishing people literally spreading terrorist propaganda. Destiny (the streamer not the game) alleges that this block has been in place since october 13th of last year, but for now the only solid proof is that it has been in place since may of this year so tak…

> Letting antisemites back on the platform, never punishing people literally spreading terrorist propaganda.

Surely we can engage in this topic without resorting to blatantly inflammatory language.

Re: Twitch blocks creating new accounts from Israeli IP's

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What’s more likely, an Amazon owned company blocking Israeli accounts on moral/ethical grounds or some backend technical reason? My guess is the latter…

Or one employee being an activist and sneaking in a config change.

Up until recently support responded to tickets of people asking why they couldn't sign up telling them they were forbidden to join. So it was at least semi-official and allowed as a reason for closing support tickets.

Re: Twitch blocks creating new accounts from Israeli IP's

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here on HN I tend to see the opposite: lots of staunch anti-israelism, sometimes bordering on plain old antisemitism, along with these statements like yours. I have showdead and showflagged enabled, yet I don’t see the flood of propaganda you keep talking about.

I imagine @dang is pretty on top of clapping antisemitic comments on this platform, he’s not one to mess around. I worry that softening the definition of antisemitism by saying things border on it is ultimately weakening the severity of the accusation long term. Like bigot and pedo, antisemite will soon be relegated to just another empty accusation before long.

Should I call people “cryptoantisemites” instead, when they dance on that thin line between “trying to be unbiased” and “calling to wipe Israel and its inhabitants from the map”, never actually uttering the latter aloud?

Re: Twitch blocks creating new accounts from Israeli IP's

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The block was hardcoded into the source code on October 13, 2023. I think it would have been done by one of the ops teams if it was required by management. Probably just something done by a single dev.

Is there a source for this?

Screenshot of the source code: https://x.com/StopAntisemites/status/1848445010708205758

Hardcoded; only Palestine and Israel.

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