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Hopping too many startups in a row?

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Re: Hopping too many startups in a row?

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Meanwhile I've had 10 years of experience before my current job, only one of which is longer than a year. It's the nature of startups. I don't think it was ever held against me. If anything, some were only evaluating FAANG-style experience (usually ex-FAANG managers), but I wouldn't qualify for those anyway. I would say riding a sinking ship is a negative for an employee - it's a world of pivots and rapid change. You…

That's more like contracting than a full time position.

Re: Hopping too many startups in a row?

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So you switched a company 3 times in the last 2 years and now you’re trying to do it again? That gives roughly 8 months per company. So you onboarded yourself, worked a bit and started sending the CVs again? That sounds like a huge loss for the employer. > Being clear that it wasn't a positive sign to them. Is it really that strange, or were they maybe used to bigger company culture and expectations? The question the…

I think he's saying he has been moving to the next company within 2 years after starting a job. Not all 3 companies in 2 years.

Re: Hopping too many startups in a row?

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Over 27 years I have worked at 8 companies. 6 were large to medium size publicly traded companies and 2 were startups.

The startups were very chaotic and when I saw them fail to sell the companies 5 times, fail to secure more funding, layoff employees, no raises, no bonuses, failure to listen to employees, I could go on and on...

My explanation if someone asks is that I thought they were good opportunities but I was concerned about my job security after all of the issues and more I listed above.

Re: Hopping too many startups in a row?

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post #12

So you switched a company 3 times in the last 2 years and now you’re trying to do it again? That gives roughly 8 months per company. So you onboarded yourself, worked a bit and started sending the CVs again? That sounds like a huge loss for the employer. > Being clear that it wasn't a positive sign to them. Is it really that strange, or were they maybe used to bigger company culture and expectations? The question the…

I think he's saying he has been moving to the next company within 2 years after starting a job. Not all 3 companies in 2 years.

Let's wait for them to clarify. If it's 3 companies in 2 years, I'd not bother them. If it's a third company where he's leaving at 1 year 11 months - it'd look completely regular / fine for me.

Re: Hopping too many startups in a row?

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Here's the thing: you don't really get to see the consequences of your decisions until 3yr after you've made them. While it's perfectly understandable why you've responded to the changing environment of startups, the lack of holding a position for long enough is a career-limiting move. It sucks, but the world isn't fair.

> Here's the thing: you don't really get to see the consequences of your decisions until 3yr after you've made them.

That's a weird thing about resumes... they're pretty much for life, so any move has to be explained/justified over and over again one or more decades later.

Any short-term quick win to get away from a bad boss of a few thousand $$$ could stop you from getting a great job much further down the track. Any move should always be thought of in terms of "how will this look on my resume?" (which won't show salary, office environment, etc.) and "how can I explain this?". "It was a good opportunity to learn about XYZ, which they didn't have at the previous company" sounds great. "I had to get away from XYZ" or "I wanted more job security" don't sound as good, especially if XYZ or the fact that the company was a startup with limited job security was evident from the start.

Re: Hopping too many startups in a row?

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I'll add that it was never common in my experience to get "real" details during the interview process from team members regardless of using a recruiter. Maybe it's only with my background, but I find out an actual impression the first week (processes, cross team interaction, gossip).

Re: Hopping too many startups in a row?

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Neither side of this story is strange. You have a reasonable history. It doesn't match what they want to see. Neither side is wrong, and you can't please everybody. I'd say if you are looking to stay in one place for 4+ years, you need to start by staying in a place for 2+ years. If you are fine bouncing more than that, that is your choice, and anyone who doesn't like it wouldn't have been a good match for you anyway.

Re: Hopping too many startups in a row?

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Here's the thing: you don't really get to see the consequences of your decisions until 3yr after you've made them. While it's perfectly understandable why you've responded to the changing environment of startups, the lack of holding a position for long enough is a career-limiting move. It sucks, but the world isn't fair.

> the lack of holding a position for long enough is a career-limiting move.

is it though? I see people hoping all the time. Sure you're bound to run into a situation where somebody will view that as a negative but the only way you can switch jobs every 2 years is if somebody hired you. Which means that by definition, there will be companies that don't care.

I guess in a tightening market you'll have more candidates without job hopping so you can use it as a criteria but if your company has legitimate vertical movement there's probably less to worry about. Of course though if you company staffs its ranks pretty entirely by hiring outside as opposed to internal promotion then you should expect to replace the role in a couple of years.

Re: Hopping too many startups in a row?

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post #4

Meanwhile I've had 10 years of experience before my current job, only one of which is longer than a year. It's the nature of startups. I don't think it was ever held against me. If anything, some were only evaluating FAANG-style experience (usually ex-FAANG managers), but I wouldn't qualify for those anyway. I would say riding a sinking ship is a negative for an employee - it's a world of pivots and rapid change. You…

That's more like contracting than a full time position.

Yeah, that's a better way of putting it. I actually have them on resume as contracting because 1 page resumes are abstractions. The details go into a 20 page portfolio. But if a company has 6 months of runway, I can't mentally consider it a full time position anyway.
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