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The part that annoys me is that students apparently have no right to be told why the AI flagged their work. For any process where an computer is allowed to judge people, where should be a rule in place that demands that the algorithm be able explains EXACTLY why it flagged this person. Now this would effectively kill off the current AI powered solution, because they have no way of explaining, or even understanding, w…
That's not correct. Some solution look at perplexity for specific models, some will look at ngram frequencies, and similar approaches. Almost all of those can produce a heatmap of "what looks suspicious". I wouldn't expect any of the detection systems to be like black boxes relying on LLM over the whole text.
It is no longer effective to solely use a written essay to measure how deeply a student comprehends a subject. AI is here to stay; new methods should be used to assess student performance. I remember being told at school, that we weren't allowed to use calculators in exams. The line provided by teachers was that we could never rely on having a calculator when we need it most—obviously there's irony associated with ha…
I believe it's still true today, but with future AI systems even highly abstract math is under the danger.
I’m selfishly so glad I dodged this particular bullet in my studies.
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> I only hope that we get to decide how society responds to that change together .. rather than have it forced upon us. That basically never happens and the outcome is the result of some sort of struggle. Usually just a peaceful one in the courts and legislatures and markets, but a struggle nonetheless. > new methods should be used to assess student performance. Such as? We need an answer now because students are bei…
> Such as? We need an answer now because students are being assessed now. When I was in university (Humanities degree), we had to do lots of mandatory essays throughout the year but they counted little towards your overall mark, maybe 10% iirc. The majority of marks came from mid-year & end-of-year exams. A simple change to negate AI is to not award any points for work outside exams — make it an optional chance to ge…
My sense is that if writing was entirely optional, it would be too easy for students to let it slide; having 10% count toward your grade is a good "nudge" to get honest students to actually do the work. I'd just give a little admonition at the beginning saying that I'm not going to bother checking if you use LLMs, but if you do you're an idiot, because you'll be completely unprepared for the hand-written essay you have to compose yourself in the exams.
For a human who deals with student work or reads job applications spotting AI generated work quickly becomes trivially easy. Text seems to use the same general framework (although words are swapped around) also we see what I call 'word of the week' where whichever 'AI' engine seems to get hung up on a particular English word which is often an unusual one and uses it at every opportunity. It isn't long before you real…
> The staff soon realised what garbage these tools are so if a student accused of plagiarism decided to argue back then the accusation would be quietly dropped. I ask myself when the time comes that some student will accuse the stuff of libel or slander becuase of false AI plagiarism accusations.
It is no longer effective to solely use a written essay to measure how deeply a student comprehends a subject. AI is here to stay; new methods should be used to assess student performance. I remember being told at school, that we weren't allowed to use calculators in exams. The line provided by teachers was that we could never rely on having a calculator when we need it most—obviously there's irony associated with ha…
Just because a method of assessment became easily spoofable doesn't mean we should give up on it. Imagine if in the era before HTTPS we just said that the internet won't be really viable because it's impossible to communicate securely on it. I still feel like AI detectors would work well if we have access to the exact model, output probabilities of tokens, We can just take a bit of given text, and calculate the cumul…
That's kinda nuts how adult people learned to trust some random algorithms in a year or two. They don't know how it works, they cannot explain it, they don't care, it just works. It's magic. If it says you cheated, you cheated. You cannot do anything about it. I want to emphasize, that this isn't really about trusting magic, it's about people nonchalantly doing ridiculous stuff nowdays and that they aren't held accou…
There was recent article about yet another generated text in the US court, this time without malicious intent (it seems). The article boils down to the fact that the plaintiff asked neural network to do a historical financial calculation of property cost and immediately trusted it, "because computers". Computers are always correct, NNs run on computers, hence they are always correct :) . Soon this mentality will be in every household on the planet. We will be remembering days of media dishonesty and propaganda with fondness, at least previously we kinda could discern if the source was intentionally lying.
Imagine two scenarios: five years ago somebody saw this coming, and they thought we should legislate a certain mechanism to prevent students from using AI assistants to cheat. Would we have done it back then? The answer is "no", since the problem was nebulous and we deal with situations like this after they come up, not before.
Now imagine a second scenario: somebody today tells you that AIs are on their way to own and supplant our societies. They are already functionally equivalent to regular human beings in many axes, and are only gonna get better at that. And thus, we should bolster our social apparatus with pro-human shielding... What do you say, should we deal with this problem after it comes up?
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Just because something is technically legal, doesn't mean it's in any way common or part of UK culture to own a gun. There hasn't been a school shooting in the UK for nearly 30 years. Handguns were banned after the last school shooting and there hasn't been one since. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:School_shootings_in_t... Although that fact is sometimes forgotten by schools who copy the US in having "active…
Yet the murder rate was unaffected by the gun ban.
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