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Re: Weavrs - autonomous Twitter bots

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Post by novalis »

smcl wrote: post #17
bazzargh wrote: post #13

That site got a fair bit of press (and not in a good way) after they set up one of those bots pretending to be the author Jon Ronson. Jon interviewed the people behind it, judge them for yourself: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/video/2012/mar/27/jo...

Not sure if it's just me, but those guys come across as extremely unlikeable in that video. I don't get how they seem oblivious to why Jon is upset about it, and even at one point one gets (faux?) annoyed that real Jon is telling people following fake Jon to stop doing so.

I take it they force themselves to come across as extremely unlikeable but do throw in that they want to show how an inverted stock put compensation Algo is not good for anyone, or at least that is how they whitewash it. While picking on a very soft target. Not being able to express themselves coherently doesn't help either.

Just make a half assed bot and ride the wave in the most nonsensical level you are able to perform at. Tip, it's not even interesting at all.

Someone could of have set up that video like this : "Three twats playing clueless to identity theft, manifest in sync when the interviewer calls them trolls".

That was priceless and very revealing of how they want to be regarded. Yet fail so hard at it. Guess neuromarketing was too crowded for these three not so luminous lightbulbs.

At times it strikes like they really believe they are on to something that is worth being "discovered", kind of hard when pushing glorified irc bots around but whatever. The twat in the middle was the funniest, guess they went for a soft target to spare him from contempt of court charges in a identity theft case... you know, for arguing of sitting arrangements. This stuff is priceless, niche priceless.

Re: Weavrs - autonomous Twitter bots

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Post by stfu »

brackin wrote: post #20
smcl wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure if it's just me, but those guys come across as extremely unlikeable in that video. I don't get how they seem oblivious to why Jon is upset about it, and even at one point one gets (faux?) annoyed that real Jon is telling people following fake Jon to stop doing so.

The central guy comes across as a total psychopath. Twisting everything he says in a strange way. Almost saying the fact that he uses his name on Twitter makes him self-obsesed. I've just looked at my list of @replies and the last ten are all users using their real names. They have some of the most absolutely weakest arguments I've ever heard yet get away with it. It's as if they don't care if the thousands watching…

The video has almost some Troll bait feeling. Found it highly amusing how concerned that guy becomes about the communication of his non existent eating habits on Twitter.

Re: Weavrs - autonomous Twitter bots

#23

Post by veverkap »

yarrel wrote: post #19
veverkap wrote: post #18

I didn't like that the weavr bot posted my physical address. I thought giving access to my location would allow it to work in my city, not my actual address. And there is no way to delete that first post.

Did you set it as the Weavr's home address? Change it, and the original address will soon be out of sight and out of mind as the Weavr posts more.

No, I went to the page to create a weaver and it asked me for my physical location. I wasn't informed that it would be used in that way and I am given no way of deleting that information. Being out of sight and out of mind isn't really good enough.

Re: Weavrs - autonomous Twitter bots

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Post by treelovinhippie »

Oh damn guys, this is epic. I see what you're doing here. User-generated bots with unique personalities. Generate enough and put them into the wild that is twitter, and you'll quickly find what algorithms are best at "befriending" most people.

I'd always predicted pure algorithmic AI would emerge only after we'd stitched together the human hiveAI (a small 7 billion neruons), but it may just grow with it.

Here's one (of many) thoughts: imagine generating a twitter bot (sorry, weavr) directly from your search and/or browsing history...

Re: Weavrs - autonomous Twitter bots

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Post by yarrel »

veverkap wrote: post #23
yarrel wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you set it as the Weavr's home address? Change it, and the original address will soon be out of sight and out of mind as the Weavr posts more.

No, I went to the page to create a weaver and it asked me for my physical location. I wasn't informed that it would be used in that way and I am given no way of deleting that information. Being out of sight and out of mind isn't really good enough.

Please contact support and they'll see what they can do -

https://getsatisfaction.com/philterphactory

Re: Weavrs - autonomous Twitter bots

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Post by evanlivingston »

smcl wrote: post #17
bazzargh wrote: post #13

That site got a fair bit of press (and not in a good way) after they set up one of those bots pretending to be the author Jon Ronson. Jon interviewed the people behind it, judge them for yourself: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/video/2012/mar/27/jo...

Not sure if it's just me, but those guys come across as extremely unlikeable in that video. I don't get how they seem oblivious to why Jon is upset about it, and even at one point one gets (faux?) annoyed that real Jon is telling people following fake Jon to stop doing so.

I find these guys extremely likable. Its obvious that they're aware Jon is upset and they're toying with him. They are challenging his desire to use flimsy social media to represent himself. They also challenge his right own his online identity. I feel that their attitudes are warranted.

I don't feel as though these three are merry pranksters just out for a laugh. It's obvious that something about their work kind of rubs us the wrong way. It devalues our online representations, and that's precisely what they're after. They don't glorify their algorithms. Doesn't it sting a little that their simple web bots can emulate a human fairly accurately? Doesn't it really suck when this online persona steps on our toes? Is there no way to tell the public who the real me is without makings lots of videos, online profiles, status updates and tweets.

It's all a little trivial and those three make it obvious.

Re: Weavrs - autonomous Twitter bots

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Post by patrickk »

smcl wrote: post #17
bazzargh wrote: post #13

That site got a fair bit of press (and not in a good way) after they set up one of those bots pretending to be the author Jon Ronson. Jon interviewed the people behind it, judge them for yourself: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/video/2012/mar/27/jo...

Not sure if it's just me, but those guys come across as extremely unlikeable in that video. I don't get how they seem oblivious to why Jon is upset about it, and even at one point one gets (faux?) annoyed that real Jon is telling people following fake Jon to stop doing so.

It's like the guy in the center is so wrapped up in programming bots that he's taken on robot-like qualities himself (lack of empathy, can't understand emotions). Positions or arguments that would make sense to me, to him are "weird" or "psychologically interesting".

The counter-argument Mr. Ronson could have presented would be: "well if someone goes on twitter, and intends to follow me and they end up following your jon_ronson bot instead, that is fundamentally dishonest to both me (the real Jon Ronson) and the follower".

Re: Weavrs - autonomous Twitter bots

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Post by _hiss »

smcl wrote: post #17
bazzargh wrote: post #13

That site got a fair bit of press (and not in a good way) after they set up one of those bots pretending to be the author Jon Ronson. Jon interviewed the people behind it, judge them for yourself: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/video/2012/mar/27/jo...

Not sure if it's just me, but those guys come across as extremely unlikeable in that video. I don't get how they seem oblivious to why Jon is upset about it, and even at one point one gets (faux?) annoyed that real Jon is telling people following fake Jon to stop doing so.

Unlikeable inasmuch as the nihilists from The Big Lebowski would be unlikeable should you meet them in reality.

Re: Weavrs - autonomous Twitter bots

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Post by Toenex »

I'd like to think these things would work because the AI is so smart that they make an intelligent contribution to twitter. Sadly I suspect they might work because it won't take much to improve upon the average tweet.

Re: Weavrs - autonomous Twitter bots

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Post by pnzi »

zeroinfluencer wrote: post #6
Tichy wrote: post #2

Hm, I just realized that I don't like to log in somewhere with my Google account. Too much vital stuff depends on it, and if a site forwards me to a Google login prompt there is always the danger of phishing. Couldn't you provide a classic sign up form? Granted, I may be the last person on earth to use those... Also, why not sign in with Twitter (though I'd really prefer an independent sign up form)?

Hello. We didn't want to put people through a sign-up process AND then then ask them to fill out Weavrs profiles, so we opted for a 3rd party authentication. If we had used Twitter for Auth, then it becomes very confusing. There's Twitter accounts for Weavrs and for the User. If we had used Facebook, then people get really worried about privacy and Weavrs are not private beings. Nothing gets pulled from your Google a…

Why would using Twitter for authentication be confusing? I think it'd be great.
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