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Facebook Not Feeling Friendly With Nasdaq

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Re: Facebook Not Feeling Friendly With Nasdaq

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A company forced to file these reports essentially has all the costs of being a public company. There's absolutely no reason not to go public at this point, to benefit existing shareholders. The average op-ed writer is ignorant about finance but this is what is meant when informed people talk about companies being forced to go public--they're forced to take on all the costs of being public, so might as well just IPO.

They are forced to take some of the economic costs of being public, but the managers have much more flexibility when the company is private. For example, Facebook's acquisition of Instagram would not fly if FB were public when that happened. You can argue that the paperwork is onerous, but its paperwork. The headaches involved with public companies go far beyond a few paltry reports.

> ... the managers have much more flexibility when the company is private. For example, Facebook's acquisition of Instagram would not fly if FB were public when that happened.

Is that really the case? In other words, what additional restrictions does a publicly-listed company have that privately-traded companies do not have?

Your comment seems plausible, but I could imagine that the SEC regulations around > 500 shareholders etc. could also include all the shareholder protections we associate with public companies, as well.

Additionally, I wouldn't be surprised if Mark Zuckerberg's controlling interest in FB had some sort of an impact on what regulations apply to the company.

Re: Facebook Not Feeling Friendly With Nasdaq

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're forgetting the part where NASDAQ told every major player to sell the Facebook shares they had, if they wanted to get in on some of that 40 million in compensations (you had to fill in the sold-at price on the form, or forget about it).

Can you clarify or provide a source? It's not clear what you're saying, or why it's bad. If you're saying that traders need to have sold shares to get compensation, well, should NASDAQ just compensate everyone who says they didn't sell shares but were planning to, cross their heart and hope to die?

http://www.businessinsider.com/exclusive-qa-a-hedge-fund-man...

Many solutions available are better than the one that NASDAQ implemented. For example, they could halt trading when they realize their matching engine doesn't work.

Re: Facebook Not Feeling Friendly With Nasdaq

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post #3

Facebook feels manhandled? Now it knows how it's users feel when it: changes privacy settings, makes profiles public, sells information to advertisers, tracks browsing habits outside of Facebook, and comonderes e-mail addresses. Fuck you Facebook. Your little butt-hurt whining means nothing to most people as you made billions off the deal anyway. Seriously, Facebook screwed many people over in its short life. I can't…

This seems like a lot of hostility and resentment for a voluntary, user-generated-content website.

Re: Facebook Not Feeling Friendly With Nasdaq

#35
post #31
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are forced to take some of the economic costs of being public, but the managers have much more flexibility when the company is private. For example, Facebook's acquisition of Instagram would not fly if FB were public when that happened. You can argue that the paperwork is onerous, but its paperwork. The headaches involved with public companies go far beyond a few paltry reports.

> ... the managers have much more flexibility when the company is private. For example, Facebook's acquisition of Instagram would not fly if FB were public when that happened. Is that really the case? In other words, what additional restrictions does a publicly-listed company have that privately-traded companies do not have? Your comment seems plausible, but I could imagine that the SEC regulations around > 500 share…

Presumably there are some advantages to remaining private since there are plenty of large US corporations which choose to do so:

http://www.forbes.com/private

I couldn't find any reliable sources for what the advantages were though.

Re: Facebook Not Feeling Friendly With Nasdaq

#36
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A company forced to file these reports essentially has all the costs of being a public company. There's absolutely no reason not to go public at this point, to benefit existing shareholders. The average op-ed writer is ignorant about finance but this is what is meant when informed people talk about companies being forced to go public--they're forced to take on all the costs of being public, so might as well just IPO.

They are forced to take some of the economic costs of being public, but the managers have much more flexibility when the company is private. For example, Facebook's acquisition of Instagram would not fly if FB were public when that happened. You can argue that the paperwork is onerous, but its paperwork. The headaches involved with public companies go far beyond a few paltry reports.

Not at Facebook. Zuck still owns a majority of the voting shares. The board has almost no teeth an couldn't have stopped the Instagram transaction if it wanted too.

Re: Facebook Not Feeling Friendly With Nasdaq

#37
post #3

Facebook feels manhandled? Now it knows how it's users feel when it: changes privacy settings, makes profiles public, sells information to advertisers, tracks browsing habits outside of Facebook, and comonderes e-mail addresses. Fuck you Facebook. Your little butt-hurt whining means nothing to most people as you made billions off the deal anyway. Seriously, Facebook screwed many people over in its short life. I can't…

This seems like a lot of hostility and resentment for a voluntary, user-generated-content website.

You say that like there are many other choices. I joined back when only colleges could have access, and it was a safe place to talk to your friends and post your party pictures from last weekend.

It has "grown", but also has muscled out any competitors through various means. Facebook takes full advantage of their network effect and to me that feels more like a bait-and-switch with a gun to my head.

Re: Facebook Not Feeling Friendly With Nasdaq

#38
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This seems like a lot of hostility and resentment for a voluntary, user-generated-content website.

You say that like there are many other choices. I joined back when only colleges could have access, and it was a safe place to talk to your friends and post your party pictures from last weekend. It has "grown", but also has muscled out any competitors through various means. Facebook takes full advantage of their network effect and to me that feels more like a bait-and-switch with a gun to my head.

Are you saying that you feel you have no choice in life but to maintain an active Facebook account?

That is fascinating. And concerning.

I do say there are many other choices, but if you feel there are none, our situations must be vastly different. I have no idea how someone could feel that they need Facebook.

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