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Tesla Optimus Bots Were Remotely Operated at Cybercab Event

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Re: Tesla Optimus Bots Were Remotely Operated at Cybercab Event

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Post by sagebird »

The optimus bots seemed laggy. I thought the non verbal communication really suffered compared to a human using fingers and eye contact. The smoothness of the optimus movement was at odds with human movement - delicately but quickly darting around.

When a human makes eye contact with you and signals something with their hands - it is so responsive that you are certain that they are talking to you. With the robots, it was ambiguous.

Did someone put a low pass on the movements on top of a laggy remote control loop?

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Post by slimebot80 »

buzzert wrote: post #234
slimebot80 wrote: post #33

It's all about controlling money that might go to more honest ventures. Yes, humanity has engineers who are going to the moon, creating robots, investigating brain interfaces, improving public transport with buses and tunnels. And there will always be monorail salesmen who try to soak up those investments, taking away from others.

> improving public transport with buses and tunnels Who is working on this?

https://www.reddit.com/r/LosAngeles/comments/wln0d4/time_mus...

Re: Tesla Optimus Bots Were Remotely Operated at Cybercab Event

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Post by _ea1k »

slg wrote: post #68
_ea1k wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Quite a few people at the event asked employees about this and were directly given the answer. It wasn't a secret.

Were you at the event or do you have a source for that claim? I have seen video of one of the bots refusing to give an answer to that question and there were multiple articles in the wake of the event that couldn't come to any definitive conclusion so I'm skeptical of this claim of immediate transparency.

I didn't go, but I saw the video that someone else linked. Also, during the event DirtyTesla was telling people that he was told they were remotely operated. I don't think he had insider knowledge, just answers from workers.

I did see that a few other people seemed to get more vague answers, notably including MKBHD. It seems strange that there wasn't consistent messaging.

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Post by SergeAx »

dawnerd wrote: post #155
Animats wrote: post #95

That was obvious to anyone with any experience with real-world robots. Nice piece of machinery, though. Boston Dynamics' humanoids were clunky electrohydraulic mechanisms borrowed from their horse-type robots. All-electric is now possible and much simpler. Schatft was the first to get this working, and they had to liquid-cool the motors. Don't know if Tesla has to liquid cool. They do that in the cars, so they certai…

But the problem is the majority of people buying and hyping TSLA are not working or have close experience with robotics to see what’s real vs human controlled. That’s intentionally deceptive.

Well, maybe they shouldn't buy the stock of the company they don't understand? Or at least check experts' opinion beforehand? This sounds like an obvious hint in case of pharma or defense industry, why automotive should be different?

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Post by schainks »

nomel wrote: post #221
schainks wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No reference, this is my personal hypothesis. Tesla still needs to squeeze profit out of all this R&D. Eventually AI eventually could take over, sure. What I see today is they can have humans control the robots for tasks that can easily injure humans.

I've never seen that stated as a goal, even an intermediate one.

I doubt that it is, hence my use of the word "hypothesis". However, it struck me as "oh, they can do this _today_", hype aside.
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