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Re: Show HN: Sava OS – A desktop interface for your web browser

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I struggle to understand the use-case. What does this actually offer me over just using a normal web browser with maybe a customised new tab page? I made an account with a throwaway email to play around with it, and I honestly didn't understand why I'd want to use this over whatever workflow I have now.

Came here to say this. I see these come up on HN every year or so. They're often beautiful and commendable for that reason, but I never understand what anyone would actually use them for. Typically I see them start out strong, marking that features are still in Beta, but then it just kind of ends there.

In the abstract, I can feel out there being some kind of use case I'm not thinking of. Maybe something along the lines of having a familiar mental model for organizing the data in the browser, (not the data in the web apps running in the browser). Things like bookmarks, tab groups maybe, browsing history.

But what is shown is more of an honest attempt to create a full OS in the browser which will always be inherently inferior to the operating system the browser is running in, even with advances to browser engines.

Re: Show HN: Sava OS – A desktop interface for your web browser

#52

I'm not sure why you got so many negative replies. As some other commenter pointed out, it can be a good use case for reusable, copyable desktops. Another use case I though about for some time - if we build an OS (a "traditional one") that consists of just a browser and only necessary stuff for running a browser, your product would be a great fit as well

So a less functional ChromeBook? I'm struggling to find the use case for your use case. Maybe for kids education if you want them to have limited capabilities? But otherwise it is just another OS with way less software support.

As it stands, that's true. However, with the continuous advancements in WebAssembly, and if we open a store where people can install open-source software, a lot of great things could come from that.

Re: Show HN: Sava OS – A desktop interface for your web browser

#53
post #19

Wow, difficult crowd. It reminds me of the initial Dropbox launch. Their pitch was a USB drive for the Internet, which was torn to pieces by this crowd. Then, Dropbox built a video showing how it worked, and their product went viral. Folks here, myself included, struggle to understand why we need a desktop in our browser. Your animated gifs don't show enough for someone outside of your product to 'get it'. Record a v…

> which was torn to pieces by this crowd

Was it? I’m looking at the thread right now and the top level comments say things like: “This is genius”; “I must say Dropbox looks great!”; “This has great potential!”; “Cool stuff indeed”; “your app is something that I've been wishing someone would make for some time now”; “This is an interesting application”; “It looks great man”; “Nice Application”; “I like the app”; and on and on… It’s mostly praise and some well reasoned and polite criticisms.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8863

And even if you’re referring to the infamous BrandonM comment, not only is that one comment but the reply (which is almost always glossed over) shows it was a valuable and positive interaction. dang had a nice writeup on it.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27067281

Re: Show HN: Sava OS – A desktop interface for your web browser

#55
I have given your service a try, and while the UX was impressive, I was bothered by an apparent lack of encryption. The landing page, the privacy policy, and your mission statement all make many mentions of encryption and security, yet (besides TLS) there doesn't seem to be any encryption going on as far as my browser is concerned.

I created a new folder, created a text file in the folder, and added some text to the file. The name of the folder, the text file, and the content itself were sent to the server unencrypted (besides TLS).

I'm sure your server encrypts the data immediately, but this adds unnecessary trust when client-side encryption could be employed. It also enables an attacker or a potential future operator to sniff the data before it is encrypted. That's no good!

Re: Show HN: Sava OS – A desktop interface for your web browser

#57
Emulated desktop Operating system written in a high level language, compiled to an intermediate assembly language, run on a virtual machine written in JavaScript, executed in a javascript engine, run inside of a sandbox inside of a browser, inside of an operating system just like the proprietary one one being run at the bottom of the stack.

All so you can "create text files" on a proprietary platform that won't work without the internet. What a time to be alive!

Re: Show HN: Sava OS – A desktop interface for your web browser

#58
post #50

Why is it called Sava OS when it isn't an operating system. Shouldn't it be Sava DE or something?

Technically, you can say that an OS is a term for managing complexity. We're managing the complexity that comes with the modern age of the internet & the web platform. At this stage, I agree it might sound like an overstatement, but it's aligned with our vision and where we eventually want to take it.

Re: Show HN: Sava OS – A desktop interface for your web browser

#60
post #39

I have had a go at building one of these. https://fingswotidun.com/images/notanos_4.png It was predominantly designed to be as dumb a server as possible and do everything client side. It implemented a basic file IO interface so you can write files and get directory listings. Anything fancy client side could be leveraged by the ability to execute commands on the server and providing a local named socket for commands t…

We're definitely going to make this open-source. But the code and especially the documentation is not ready for that yet
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