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Winamp deletes entire GitHub source code repo after a rocky few weeks

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Re: Winamp deletes entire GitHub source code repo after a rocky few weeks

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This story is analogous to a landowner and a group of neighborhood kids. The landowner allows the kids to play baseball in his field, but then the kids complain the grass is not cut, they are playing late into the evening, a few kids vandalize damage his flower bed, and his lawyers tell him he will be sued if he doesn't make all these safety changes, and so the landowner says screw it and puts up a fence.

> his lawyers tell him Is this common in the US? I cannot imagine someone from Italy or France writing a post like this.

A generation ago kids would use other people's backyards or a company's land for play. It became less common due to fears of lawsuits. Example: https://www.reddit.com/r/AskALawyer/comments/1czlq5k/who_is_...

Re: Winamp deletes entire GitHub source code repo after a rocky few weeks

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It's WWII all over again with switched roles, and hacktivits DDOSed archive.org

I don't see any credibility to the claim that 'BlackMeta' were/are in fact hacktivists. Do you have any reason to repeat that?

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Re: Winamp deletes entire GitHub source code repo after a rocky few weeks

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When I try to search for Winamp on Github (without a login), I am blocked:

    Whoa there!

    You have exceeded a secondary rate limit.

    Please wait a few minutes before you try again;
    in some cases this may take up to an hour. 
Regular github browsing is ok, searches result in the above. For 4 hours now (without other any activity). Github is making it personal.

Re: Winamp deletes entire GitHub source code repo after a rocky few weeks

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This is possibly why a number of Fortune 500 and government organizations avoid GPL like the plague. This whole debacle 'won' one battle for GPL licensing but set the war (and their stated ultimate goals) back by a significant amount. This event is a big topic among the devs where I work. It's reignited the 'we should make sure our policies state no use of GPL licensed code or libraries without the exception' (use of binary executables is unavoidable).

In any online population, some people like to build the world (Aces), some like to rule the world (Kings/Queens), some like to watch the world burn (Jokers), and some spend all their time fire-fighting (Jacks). Corollary: There will always be jokers.

Re: Winamp deletes entire GitHub source code repo after a rocky few weeks

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You can scroll their X page and it's extremely clear that they're focused on the Gaza war ( https://x.com/Sn_darkmeta ) and they openly state that they attacked the Internet Archive because it was based in America which supports Israel ( https://x.com/Sn_darkmeta/status/1844358501952618976 ). We can quibble about whether a "hacktivist" group can even exist at all or if it's a convenient lie the Internet has collectiv…

I don't have a Twitter account, so I can't generally scroll on someone's page to see anything chronological-ish. :-\ (I remember trying at the time of the incident and having less success than now.) Thanks for sharing the direct link to that video. At the time of the initial outage, I only saw some assertion that they were 'a hacktivist group' on some article on Bleeping Computer, and at the same time the only reason…

https://nitter.poast.org/Sn_darkmeta

Re: Winamp deletes entire GitHub source code repo after a rocky few weeks

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Wine Is Not Emulator.

And this image does not depict a pipe: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/MagrittePipe.... Giving WINE (originally WINdows Emulator) a cute backronym does not change the definition of the word emulator or whether Wine is one. Please check your favorite dictionaries for that.

It actually doesn't do emulation but API AFAIK.

Re: Winamp deletes entire GitHub source code repo after a rocky few weeks

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And this image does not depict a pipe: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/b9/MagrittePipe.... Giving WINE (originally WINdows Emulator) a cute backronym does not change the definition of the word emulator or whether Wine is one. Please check your favorite dictionaries for that.

It actually doesn't do emulation but API AFAIK.

Correct - the instructions in the Windows PE executable run natively. WINE provides a PE loader for exe and dll files (https://github.com/wine-mirror/wine/blob/master/dlls/ntdll/l...) and provides its own version of the API (user32.dll, kernel32.dll etc)

Re: Winamp deletes entire GitHub source code repo after a rocky few weeks

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I suspect the author is thinking back to more than ten years ago. But yes; even newsgroups, BBSes, etc. were subject to this kind of stuff. People have always been people, even smart people with money to purchase computers.

>I suspect the author is thinking back to more than ten years ago. Yes, "good ol' days" types will always move the goalposts further and further back when you point out that things were exactly the same in the mythical time period they want to return to

There were days when internet search engines had operators and really showed results, not "relevant" SEO.

Botnets weren't a thing, either.

Re: Winamp deletes entire GitHub source code repo after a rocky few weeks

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Putting anything to a public environment, always assume an actively hostile environment. No matter how many well-meaning users you may have; if it's more then a handful, there will always be enough jerks who would try to ruin the show for everyone. To my mind, premoderation is the way. Any new user's submissions go to the premoderation queue for review, not otherwise visible. Noise and spam can be rejected automatica…

One thing I wish the tech companies would do is to use LLMs for junk moderation. At least to flag potential junk. Meta uses they LLMs to summarize comments already and can do this, yet they choose to allow obvious crypto scammers, T-shirt scams, “hey add me comments”. A simple LLM prompt of “is this post possibly a scam”, especially for new accounts, would do wonders. GitHub could likely do it too.

Just a matter of time before we get newsletters selling guides to earning $50,000 weekly by finetunning your L-MO business

L-MO = Language Model Optimized

Re: Winamp deletes entire GitHub source code repo after a rocky few weeks

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In case of security sensitive software, you could verify the security claims. Look at Apple, they claim E2EE, but don't even allow to verify that defeating the purpose of E2EE entirely (lack of need to trust the provider)

You can do that with source-available software too, I'm not sure where you think open source comes in?

My point is that Open Source isn't necessary for it, aka "open source without forking" is sufficient
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