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I'm loath to defend Mullenweg but WordPress.com is not 43% of the internet. WordPress (the software) is used by 43% of websites, WordPress.com is used by a few million, making it smaller than Wix, Squarespace and even other WordPress hosts like WPEngine.com. Automattic has no relationship with a meaningful amount of end-user data.
That seems to be the crux of the issue. At least with respect to the now what question.
Thinking more and more this is going to require a substantial rethink of the entire thing well beyond a fork. Especially if Matt sticks to his guns
This whole affair has been a disaster for everyone involved. Just a ton of dirty laundry being aired in public… Time is ripe for a new publishing ecosystem — more secure, with less cruft, and preferably better governance. But I imagine WordPress is far from being displaced, even after everything that has been going on.
> But I imagine WordPress is far from being displaced, even after everything that has been going on. Right. But this is because of a very simple, undeniable fact that is unpopular around these here parts: There is nothing close to as good as WordPress at everything WordPress can be made to do. No GUI-based CMS not built on PHP can be as flexibly hosted as one that is. PHP is easy and can be secured. There are no real…
There have been many attempts in the past. Some offered better performance, security, were easier to use, more lightweight, etc. However they all lacked the ecosystem that WordPress provides. They just didn't have the plugins and themes, the webhosters which optimize for WordPress, the developers and companies which are dedicated to developing for, maintaining and optimizing WordPress sites.
This whole affair has been a disaster for everyone involved. Just a ton of dirty laundry being aired in public… Time is ripe for a new publishing ecosystem — more secure, with less cruft, and preferably better governance. But I imagine WordPress is far from being displaced, even after everything that has been going on.
What I'd like to see is a CMS that uses git as a data store and renders to a static site. Something that can render to S3, Google pages, Cloudflare pages or a random FTP server. Ideally I could run it locally in Electron or similar, but also be able to have it hosted somewhere online that isn't the same place as the website being managed. I haven't seen a good offering in that space.
> WordPress and Automattic as Subject to EU Legislation I'm loath to defend Mullenweg but WordPress.com is not 43% of the internet. WordPress (the software) is used by 43% of websites, WordPress.com is used by a few million, making it smaller than Wix, Squarespace and even other WordPress hosts like WPEngine.com. Automattic has no relationship with a meaningful amount of end-user data.
I also don't think it's clear that the legal boundaries between the various entities (the person, Automattic, Wordpress Foundation, Wordpress.org, Wordpress.com, etc) would hold, particularly in the EU and particularly where the beneficial owners are identical or have large overlap.
I don’t know what “side” to be on, nor what those “sides” even are.
> WordPress and Automattic as Subject to EU Legislation I'm loath to defend Mullenweg but WordPress.com is not 43% of the internet. WordPress (the software) is used by 43% of websites, WordPress.com is used by a few million, making it smaller than Wix, Squarespace and even other WordPress hosts like WPEngine.com. Automattic has no relationship with a meaningful amount of end-user data.
Wordpress.anything in general must be a data juristional nightmare. Every plugin has access to UGC and could be sending bits of that anywhere.
This whole affair has been a disaster for everyone involved. Just a ton of dirty laundry being aired in public… Time is ripe for a new publishing ecosystem — more secure, with less cruft, and preferably better governance. But I imagine WordPress is far from being displaced, even after everything that has been going on.
There's already Drupal, Joomla, Ghost and many more. What I'd like to see is a CMS that uses git as a data store and renders to a static site. Something that can render to S3, Google pages, Cloudflare pages or a random FTP server. Ideally I could run it locally in Electron or similar, but also be able to have it hosted somewhere online that isn't the same place as the website being managed. I haven't seen a good offe…
> Matt seems to treat what happens on WordPress.org to be within his personal domain, while those who contribute generally assume that their contributions are within the WordPress Foundation’s scope That seems to be the crux of the issue. At least with respect to the now what question. Thinking more and more this is going to require a substantial rethink of the entire thing well beyond a fork. Especially if Matt stic…
Can someone explain the whole drama of all of this? I have heard of “Wordpress” and I have heard of “WP Engine” and I have heard that .com and .org are apparently not the same thing. But other than that this feels like walking into someone else’s family argument halfway through it. I don’t know what “side” to be on, nor what those “sides” even are.
WPEngine is private equity(I personally like their founder, find his talks)
Matt seems to be a founder gone crazy(I don't know much about him)
.com and .org are both controlled by Matt.
.com is Matts business side .org is Matts non-profit side
WPEngine is another company
All of this seems to be very unfortunate. Even if Matt has valid claims, he seems to have shot himself in the foot, and lost community support.