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Re: Living outside America

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Living and traveling outside the US (Europe, Middle East, Asia) for ~15 years convinced me of the inherent superiority of the US (culturally, economically, etc.). Our government is broken, but generally the US lets problems get really inefficiently bad, then overcorrects, so I hope that will happen in the next 20 years. The threats to the US are not other countries getting better than us, but the decline of the natio…

I agree. I've also spent a few a years living outside the US and while I had a great time it made me realize a lot about all the simple things about living in the US that we don't even realize we have and take for granted. The political stability, the infrastructure, the uniform culture that stretches coast to coast, and just the feeling of being surrounded by the immense wealth of it all. Just last week when I was at the grocery and walking down a gigantic freezer of just ice cream it really makes you think.

Re: Living outside America

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I feel like the majority of his "areas of impact" that living overseas has had on him could have just as easily happened if he had stayed in America, but moved to a city with some more diversity. It's more about growing up and making friends with people that think differently than you than just transplanting yourself.

Re: Living outside America

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I've never really understood the notion that any one country is better than another one. It just seems way too subjective and people seem to generally favour the country they were born or brought up in. I think it's much like picking a car. You can argue the pros/cons all day and night but it just boils down to what you personally prefer and what evidence you feel justifies your decision. Declaring a country is bette…

Obviously you need a metric, but mine is "place to start a world-changing technology business."

True. I'm somewhat biased because when someone states their country is the best (I'm thinking of Americans here I'm afraid and I recognise it is a generalisation), it just annoys me. I don't think anyone can be absolutely sure of themselves when making a claim like that.

I think that statement is more a state of mind rather than based in fact, which it is often proclaimed to be. I'm sure plenty of Americans would fight me to death to try and prove it though.

Re: Living outside America

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Living and traveling outside the US (Europe, Middle East, Asia) for ~15 years convinced me of the inherent superiority of the US (culturally, economically, etc.). Our government is broken, but generally the US lets problems get really inefficiently bad, then overcorrects, so I hope that will happen in the next 20 years. The threats to the US are not other countries getting better than us, but the decline of the natio…

> Our government is broken, but generally the US lets problems get really inefficiently bad, then overcorrects, so I hope that will happen in the next 20 years.

That's something as an outsider living here in since around last December I've noticed. Your government is quite broken. But it somehow still works. (Paradox, I know!) For instance, the healthcare bill that was recently passed largely solves the textbook problem of information asymmetry in the health insurance market. It almost didn't pass, but it did. Same seems about the immigration laws - although they are yet to be "fixed". It's a country where, ironically, a "professional news organization" like Fox News exists at the same time with with a "comedy" show like the Colbert Report.

> Unless something major changes, the American focus on consumption will eventually erode our influence around the globe.

That's a quote from the original article. I don't quite see how consumption is wrong. Especially, since from what I see, consumption here in the US is based on the idea of buying things that solve problems. That give people the incentive to invent tools to solve problems. Trust me there are a lot of countries where they don't like to spend money at all (consume). There are everyday problems there that aren't solved because tools invented for them will not be bought. Your quality of life is stagnant if "buy only bare minimum" is the model you want to follow.

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> I felt it would be too overwhelming to go to a new country by myself and also deal with a foreign language [...]

Monolingualism is such a loss to the world.

Re: Living outside America

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Living and traveling outside the US (Europe, Middle East, Asia) for ~15 years convinced me of the inherent superiority of the US (culturally, economically, etc.). Our government is broken, but generally the US lets problems get really inefficiently bad, then overcorrects, so I hope that will happen in the next 20 years. The threats to the US are not other countries getting better than us, but the decline of the natio…

> Our government is broken, but generally the US lets problems get really inefficiently bad, then overcorrects, so I hope that will happen in the next 20 years. That's something as an outsider living here in since around last December I've noticed. Your government is quite broken. But it somehow still works. (Paradox, I know!) For instance, the healthcare bill that was recently passed largely solves the textbook prob…

> Trust me there are a lot of countries where they don't like to spend money at all (consume).

Are you talking about Germany?

Re: Living outside America

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Obviously you need a metric, but mine is "place to start a world-changing technology business."

True. I'm somewhat biased because when someone states their country is the best (I'm thinking of Americans here I'm afraid and I recognise it is a generalisation), it just annoys me. I don't think anyone can be absolutely sure of themselves when making a claim like that. I think that statement is more a state of mind rather than based in fact, which it is often proclaimed to be. I'm sure plenty of Americans would fig…

Really, primary thing I dislike about the US (relative to other countries) is that we have a huge (and growing) underclass, just like in places like Brazil and Mexico. We need to shrink (ideally, eliminate, at least as a multi-generational thing) that group (there's no single solution -- but blindly cutting down the successful would be worse than what we have now. Some combination of better education and healthcare is part of it, and I support negative population growth in the world in general and the US in specific.)

US foreign policy is a bit too interventionist for my taste, but I'd prefer it to pure pacifism. A better-armed UK or France is probably a reasonable compromise for that. However, most US foreign interventions (except Iraq) aren't that horrible for most citizens (and even Iraq wasn't that much worse than Iraq 1991-2003 or 1980-1988) of the foreign countries, certainly compared to invasions and occupations by other countries.

Re: Living outside America

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"A ton of people I met from around the World thought Americans were overweight, materialistic and unintelligent. This was, of course, an unfair generalization." Less than 30% of American adults are at a healthy bodyweight, so it's really not an unfair generalization.

Based on BMI, yes? According to that, I believe Brad Pitt at his peak was classified as 'obese'. There is a weight problem, but our tools for measuring it are subpar.

Re: Living outside America

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This is a great article, and as a European I can relate to all of his points. Here are some comments from the other side of the pond; they're of course my personal opinion but I think they're somewhat representative of the European view. I don’t view the USA as the center of the world - i see America as an overreaching empire that has had it's heyday. If you take a historical perspective this is how many empires fall…

Opening Note: Personal views- Practicing Jewish most of my upbringing, now agnostic by choice

"If the Danish prime minister started confessing her belief in a god she'd be laughed out of the room."

As an 18 year old American, active in American politics (I've done minor campaigning, father is a US History teacher), this is utterly strange. A politician that was not some denomination of Christianity would be, most likely, completely unable to win a Presidential election. And that's even if they were a religion the Christian majority feels close to, such as Jewish. If they were Muslim, or so help them atheist, they would stand no chance at the White House.

I recently had a friend of 6 years from the UK come and visit for two weeks, and we had a number of discussions on cultural differences. When he mentioned that the majority of people in the UK were not religious, I was dumbfounded. I (foolishly) thought it was everywhere as it is here. In my community at least, to openly question the existence of a God is a social faux pas. I have an interesting perspective having been on both sides of the coin, but in the end it scares me as much as it scares you. The concept of God abounds in our Pledge of Allegiance, in our graduation ceremonies, in our political speeches--it is almost universally accepted and above question.

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