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Re: Show HN: A fair Product Hunt alternative

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Post by treefarmer »

denizhdzh wrote: post #27
serial_dev wrote: post #25

> No favoritism: Every product gets an equal chance, and we don’t play favorites. > Daily Underdog Feature: Each day, we highlight one underdog product to give them extra visibility and support. Aren’t these contradictory statements?

Nope :) The underdog project is selected from projects with fewer than a certain number of upvotes. The system filters them and randomly picks one each day.

But then you have a paid "featured" tier, along with a leaderboard showing the most upvoted ones. How is this different from ProductHunt in the end? Isn't it still pay to win?

Re: Show HN: A fair Product Hunt alternative

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Post by denizhdzh »

treefarmer wrote: post #32
denizhdzh wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nope :) The underdog project is selected from projects with fewer than a certain number of upvotes. The system filters them and randomly picks one each day.

But then you have a paid "featured" tier, along with a leaderboard showing the most upvoted ones. How is this different from ProductHunt in the end? Isn't it still pay to win?

I understand your concern, but our paid tier simply boosts visibility, not rankings. It’s not “pay to win.” The underdog feature gives lesser-known projects a fair shot, chosen randomly from those with fewer upvotes. This ensures that every product, regardless of budget, has a chance to shine without favoritism. also, we have a plan to change all voting system for the future too.

Re: Show HN: A fair Product Hunt alternative

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Post by gremlinsinc »

jemmyw wrote: post #11

Aren't you introducing a bias by having upvotes? Why do you need upvotes for this kind of listing? The number of people clicking is a bad metric imo, you're rewarding people who can organize getting votes. Other kinds of categorization would be more interesting. I'd like to see this kind of site without the popularity metric being forefront.

i'd like to see some sort of site like this with a way to base it off things like stripe earnings, actual subscribers via callback, or people who are actually using it, and actual reviews people who review are more likely to have used it unless they are paid (there's always a way to cheat the system i guess)... maybe other factors too like shares on twitter, etc...

Re: Show HN: A fair Product Hunt alternative

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Post by thimabi »

mminer237 wrote: post #30
runningmike wrote: post #23

Nice, but the thing that holds a sensible person back from joining is point 10 in the ToS “10. Changes to the Terms - We reserve the right to modify these Terms at any time. Any changes will be effective immediately upon posting the revised Terms. Your continued use of Simple Lister following any changes constitutes acceptance of the new Terms.”

That's very standard in ToS, and I would think a no-brainer. How could one use a site without accepting its terms of service? Notably Hacker News has almost that exact same language with a 14-day notice period. YouTube, Twitter, Wordpress.com, etc. all have similar language. What is your problem with it?

I mean, they have the right to be opposed to this practice even though it is standard, right?

I myself am opposed to it too, and I believe the more people stand up to it, the merrier.

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