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Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by hammock » Wed, Oct 16, 2024, 9:22 PM UTC

massysett wrote: post #348

hammock wrote: post #345

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>My concerns are around the normalization of pointing high-resolution cameras at people around you all the time. This already exists with CCTVs on every major city streetcorner and Ring cameras on every doorstep. Not to mention Tesla cloud-connected cameras pointed inward and outward.

Most of the CCTV and Ring cameras are pretty lousy and they're in fixed locations. All the time I'll be out walking and hear an obnoxious "You are currently being recorded" announcement, but I'm far enough away from that cheap camera that I'm probably a shadowy figure in a grainy video. These VR headsets on the other hand are high-quality, very close to other people, and mobile.

>Most of the CCTV and Ring cameras are pretty lousy and they're in fixed locations.

The CCTVs in Chicago are 360 degree panning plus up/down, and can zoom-in four blocks away with enough resolution to make out a face and license plate. https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/09/29/chicago-police-cam....

Here is an example of the cameras in action: https://x.com/CWBChicago/status/1445124776742227980

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by kridsdale3 » Wed, Oct 16, 2024, 9:24 PM UTC

dagmx wrote: post #320

FredPret wrote: post #261

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I think he’s just saying he has a nice train ride.

No, he’s telling other people to also act like he does. It’s great he can enjoy it but it’s self centered to tell others to do the same.

This is one of the most tone-deaf moments I have ever seen in an internet discussion. The guy lives in the closest thing we have to heaven on earth, a bountiful paradise of gorgeous beauty admired from afar the world over, and says to those of us living in crap-world that we should be grateful for what nature gives us.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by zmmmmm » Wed, Oct 16, 2024, 9:26 PM UTC

Really interesting point about the utility of the look-and-pinch interaction rather than waving your hands around in the tight space confines of the plane. This was definitely my main issue using the Quest which was otherwise a fantastic experience.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by kridsdale3 » Wed, Oct 16, 2024, 9:26 PM UTC

AceJohnny2 wrote: post #298

One gotcha to add: Remember to turn off the AVP between charging it at home and using it on the flight. You do this by "choking" it, i.e. pressing both buttons physical for ~10s, to bring up the "Power Off" dialog, so it's really not obvious. I once had my AVP completely discharge between charging it one night, and wanting to use it on the flight <24h later. I'm guessing that the motion from the packing and trip to t…

I think it's just constantly on Wifi, checking for updates, like any iOS device.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by righthand » Wed, Oct 16, 2024, 9:27 PM UTC

samatman wrote: post #296

righthand wrote: post #278

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Airpods aren’t cool though, the majority don’t wear them nor can they afford them.

You appear to be a bit unclear on what cool means.

Are you sure you’re not conflating cool with elitism?

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by hammock » Wed, Oct 16, 2024, 9:28 PM UTC

heeton wrote: post #350

hammock wrote: post #345

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>My concerns are around the normalization of pointing high-resolution cameras at people around you all the time. This already exists with CCTVs on every major city streetcorner and Ring cameras on every doorstep. Not to mention Tesla cloud-connected cameras pointed inward and outward.

I feel it's harder for a tesla to capture footage of a teenager reading a pamphlet on a plane, but who knows what Elon's plans are.

The airlines can do that themselves:

"Newer seat-back entertainment systems on some airplanes operated by American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, United Airlines and Singapore Airlines have cameras, and it’s likely they are also on planes used by other carriers." https://apnews.com/article/4c3ca3b46c704c6080ba026729fc8d21

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by elevatedastalt » Wed, Oct 16, 2024, 9:28 PM UTC

isodev wrote: post #156

DrillShopper wrote: post #19

I guess the flip side of this is that you look like a fucking dork.

Yup, the person wearing one literally gets the “drives a cybertruck” spotlight.

And yet the Cybertruck was the 3rd highest selling Electric vehicle in the US this year.

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by righthand » Wed, Oct 16, 2024, 9:28 PM UTC

valval wrote: post #317

righthand wrote: post #277

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It’s funny because I was you for 25 years. I then got an iPhone and an M1 MacBook and never looked back. The Apple ecosystem doesn’t have competition, and products are very high quality. Then again, Apple is one of the most valuable companies in the world. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to conclude that they’re offering something valuable.

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Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by renewiltord » Wed, Oct 16, 2024, 9:29 PM UTC

steelframe wrote: post #339

My concerns are around the normalization of pointing high-resolution cameras at people around you all the time. Perhaps this specific device may have a company behind it that, at least at the moment, will resist handing the video feed with you in it to the data brokers. Make no mistake though, the data brokers are foaming at the mouth to get access to high-resolution constantly-streaming video content that includes y…

Oh yeah, no, you're definitely streaming high-definition video from the airplane. You'd better put your phone in airplane mode. The front camera is silently recording and selling your complaints about the airplane food to a competing airline in full HD. Some say they can tell from your pores. Airlines specifically upgraded in-flight wifi to 100 Gbps upload so that we could get seamless data brokering on-demand. A data broker I know sometimes hits a button to get instant live-streaming access to the inside of the seatback pocket. He really likes it. "He's watching Modern Family S4 E3" he laughed the other day. "He doesn't know the airline doesn't have S4 E4! He's going to be so disappointed"

Re: Traveling with Apple Vision Pro

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Post by Arrath » Wed, Oct 16, 2024, 9:30 PM UTC

jedberg wrote: post #205

prmoustache wrote: post #126

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You have a whole screen (large windows) at the side of your seat with landscape and stuff to actually enjoy on a train.

When I take trains in Europe, I tend to look out the window, and they often have nice views. When I take trains in the USA, I usually look out for a few seconds every couple of minutes, because it's mostly the same -- lower-middle class housing or warehouses if we're in a city, or ugly terrain outside of a city.

I have to say, taking the night train from Moscow to St Petersburg was eye opening.

I went from modern metropolis of skyscrapers and tower cranes to run down rusty industrial facilities that wouldn't look out of place in a STALKER game to sod roofed villages that look as they might have when Napoleon was making an ill fated expedition. Then of course a vast expanse of nothing at all.