For air travel, I really like my Xreal Air glasses now that I have a newer iPhone 16pro. Just plug in the USB-C cable, and you have a virtual 60" screen in front of you which works perfectly for Netflix, etc. And they cost less than 10% of the cost of an AVP, and are not limited to 2-3 hours of battery life (they get power from the phone). Note that if you have an older (lightning) iPhone, don't bother with these. Th…
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> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. Agreed 100%. Apologies for linking to my own essay, but I think this can be more generally stated as a difference between "isolated" and "integrated" arts. A device like the Vision Pro (and most tech devices, for that matter) is pushing society further and further into isolated chambers, and t…
I have a little unproven hypothesis that fits that last statement, that it would be absurd for a company like Apple to bring people together in the real world. My hypothesis is that these companies want to make money by "taking" your senses. They want your attention to be with them at all times, by being in your ear so you'll hear them, by being on your wrist so you'll feel them, by being on your eyes so you'll see t…
A phone is fundamentally a communications device. I use mine to catch rides, figure out where I'm going, call and text my loved ones, all of these things connect me to other people. I listen through headphones to music, and to talk to people, neither of these are isolating experiences. AirPods even have a mode which specifically turns off audio when someone is speaking to you, I like this, because I do enjoy listening to music or a podcast when I'm alone at the grocery store, and I do not like to be isolated by that from people around me, or the cashier.
I also use it to take photos, and then share them with people I care about, sometimes photos of people I care about, which I can then enjoy when they aren't around. These things enhance my senses, they don't steal them.
Phones certainly have some apps available which are addictive, I see people enduring self-imposed isolation in the presence of others due to that addiction, and that's sad, which is why I've dropped those social networks from my life and don't have those apps installed. Apple doesn't make those apps though, the closest thing is Messenger, which is a way to communicate with others, it doesn't have upvotes, it isn't public, none of those things.
I don't see a way to square all that with the thesis that Apple's specialty is isolatory sensory theft. Even the headset, which is clearly not designed to enhance the social parts of life, has several features which exist specifically to connect the user at least in part to their surroundings, and I think the fact that Apple never sold a VR headset without those features is a better reflection of their corporate philosophy than some paranoid yarn about how they make more money if users are cocooned in some Apple-provided sensory replacement bubble.
Did you mean to say Meta? Because if so, you made the mistake twice in the same post.
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#313> But damn, based on how well it all works now, you can just tell by the 4th or 5th generation, Apple Vision Pro will be on the face of every frequent flyer. A 4th or 5th generation Apple Vision Pro (and other corresponding advancements) may obviate the need for a lot of travel.
Will it let me feel the breeze at the top of Half Dome? Or have me chase a squirrel around after it stole my snacks? Or have me feel the pride of accomplishing a long hike that I trained for? Or let me talk with interesting people along the route and hear about their travels? Or help me find an incredible pizza restaurant with concepts that aren't in my local suburban area? Or give me the health benefits of hiking ou…
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I used to think this especially since airlines touted how good the air filtration was when COVID hit. It's actually quite poor and significantly worse than most indoor spaces I've entered (most spaces aren't great at around 800-1600ppm). On planes I've measured※ very high CO2 levels (1800-4000ppm), with the worst air during boarding and deplaning. This matches the findings of others (both amateur and professional res…
Are CO2 levels a useful way to measure filtration? Are we expecting almost all the clean air to be from outside, minimal amounts from recirculation?
I'd have expected a better mix (more fresh air) since even with filtration removing many particulates and viruses, high CO2 levels still cause worse cognitive performance.
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#315I’m not a working while travelling kind of person (I often have the ambition to work while flying, but for some reason I always feel too tired); my Vision Pro stays in my bag for the duration of the flight. For work when away from home more generally, however, I find it a fantastic device. It’s basically a portable Apple Studio Display that I can use wherever I go. As someone in a long distance relationship who is of…
I'm in the same position. I considered the vision pro, but couldn't justify it, even if I used it on the flights etc. I depend on my switch/steamdeck for the plane, laptop if i have to work (I try not to, it's terrible)... and then I just went on amazon and bought a pair of 27" lg widescreens for a few hundred a piece. When I'm not in her apt we stow one of them in a closet (she dislikes two monitors on a purely aesthetic level). I fly in with my laptop and my keyboard and I'm ready to go.
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#316I guess the flip side of this is that you look like a fucking dork.
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99% of Apple users are not thinking about how much better they are than other people for buying the phone or computer they did. They just bought it because it's the obvious choice and they've had good experiences with it in the past.
Every time an anti-Apple zealout busts out the spec sheets to prove why alternatives are so much better, there's about 8000 gotchas and usability issues that aren't worth the tradeoff for most people. You're free to not think the tradeoffs of Apple devices are worth it for you, but for everyone else (most people) they make the best option that puts up the minimal amount of fighting and a handful of workflows that you simply can't recreate in other ecosystems without dozens of asterisks.
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#317I guess the flip side of this is that you look like a fucking dork.
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Then again, Apple is one of the most valuable companies in the world. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to conclude that they’re offering something valuable.
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This feels like you’re judging others for not being fortunate enough to live in the same place you do. It’s a bit narcissistic of a viewpoint imho.
At the same time, I feel you are being dismissive of the beauty around us every day. I used to bus the same route every day for months; and every day I would look out my window and just take it in. People watching, seeing buildings grow under construction, the changing of the trees. The sunset is always beautiful, imo. Why must we always escape?
Again, you are fortunate to have a view that you enjoy. That doesn’t extend to others, unless you believe that there are no other situations on the planet other than your own.
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This feels like you’re judging others for not being fortunate enough to live in the same place you do. It’s a bit narcissistic of a viewpoint imho.
I think he’s just saying he has a nice train ride.
It’s great he can enjoy it but it’s self centered to tell others to do the same.