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Show HN: A fair Product Hunt alternative

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Re: Show HN: A fair Product Hunt alternative

#11

Post by jemmyw »

Aren't you introducing a bias by having upvotes? Why do you need upvotes for this kind of listing? The number of people clicking is a bad metric imo, you're rewarding people who can organize getting votes. Other kinds of categorization would be more interesting. I'd like to see this kind of site without the popularity metric being forefront.

Re: Show HN: A fair Product Hunt alternative

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Post by denizhdzh »

jemmyw wrote: post #11

Aren't you introducing a bias by having upvotes? Why do you need upvotes for this kind of listing? The number of people clicking is a bad metric imo, you're rewarding people who can organize getting votes. Other kinds of categorization would be more interesting. I'd like to see this kind of site without the popularity metric being forefront.

We didn’t set this up as a competition; today’s products are always sorted randomly. We’re also developing a new system where you won’t be able to choose which products to view, we’ll randomly select them for you, and you won’t have access to see all launch products at once.

Re: Show HN: A fair Product Hunt alternative

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Post by sarora27 »

I get why you see the need for this product. However, as someone who launched on PH and got featured w/ a team of two and no financial backers, I think the point is that it should not be easy to get featured.

PH does a great job of putting filters in place to ensure only the 'best' (whether by polish, value prop, or combo of both) products end up making it to the top. It really forces makers to put their absolute best foot forward when launching.

Re: Show HN: A fair Product Hunt alternative

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Post by thih9 »

jatins wrote: post #9
TekMol wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The way Hacker News does it.

The dev has to create a fair bit of additional infra if they provide username/password auth * bot prevention * same user creating multiple accounts (so now you need some IP tracking or reputation system maybe) Which is why I think sign in with Google is okay to start with for indie devs. It's understandable if you as a user don't like it though but shouldn't be a criteria to dismiss Show HN imo

> The dev has to create a fair bit of additional infra if they provide username/password auth

Not until the service gets popular. And having sign in with google as the only option may work against that outcome.

Re: Show HN: A fair Product Hunt alternative

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Post by denizhdzh »

sarora27 wrote: post #15

I get why you see the need for this product. However, as someone who launched on PH and got featured w/ a team of two and no financial backers, I think the point is that it should not be easy to get featured. PH does a great job of putting filters in place to ensure only the 'best' (whether by polish, value prop, or combo of both) products end up making it to the top. It really forces makers to put their absolute bes…

I get your point, but the issue with PH’s new algorithm is that it tends to feature only certain products, regardless of effort. Simple Lister isn’t about making things easier, it’s about giving everyone an equal chance to be seen, no matter their resources. It’s about fairness, not lowering the bar.
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