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Post by latexr »

dagmx wrote: post #174
jayd16 wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well they probably mean it would be nice if people were bored enough to be friendly.

That would require a serendipitous level of - sitting next to someone who you get along with and don’t run out of things to talk about for the entire duration of the flight - neither one of you wanting to sleep or do anything else for the duration of the flight either - not caring about the other passengers around you who might also want to sleep

I was on a flight not too long ago where the two people sitting next to me had apparently just met. They were from different countries travelling for different reasons. They had a friendly chat for a while about where they were from, why they were on that plane, and some things they enjoyed to do. The whole interaction lasted maybe twenty minutes, from sitting to take off. Then they said “cheers”, one of them went to sleep and the other began watching something on the phone. They didn’t speak again until we landed and from the outside it didn’t feel any of them felt awkward for even a second.

I’m not suggestion you strike up a conversation with your seat partner on a plane, but if you do you don’t have to feel beholden to them.

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Post by RandomThoughts3 »

asdff wrote: post #207
selykg wrote: post #204

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Certain types of travel will always exist. But traveling for work? That's an entire idea I can get behind avoiding.

Why can't you avoid it now? Just open zoom. No need for gen 5 avp.

And yet everyone who has ever worked with an offshore team knows that nothing beats time spent in the same room. I don’t expect VR to change that.

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Post by baxtr »

willemlaurentz wrote: post #3

Agree with author that the plane seems to be the only place where it is socially acceptable to wear the skimask. My wife still makes fun of me when I'm working at home with Vision Pro - I wouldn't wear it out in public. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41836437

Can you elaborate on the working part?

I tested the device in an Apple Store and was blown away by the experience. Such an amazing tool to explore, enjoy and relax.

The work part though? I had the same feeling as with the iPad early on. I need a keyboard and a mouse to be productive.

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Post by prmoustache »

dagmx wrote: post #194
prmoustache wrote: post #126

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You have a whole screen (large windows) at the side of your seat with landscape and stuff to actually enjoy on a train.

You assume that most train rides offer a good view, and a view that the commuter would find novel. If I’m taking a commuter train every day , my view is not something great. Most of the time it’s rundown houses, tunnels or fences. This has been my experience in the UK, US and Canada. If I’m taking a more long distance train, you assume I’m sat on the side with a view. Ever taken a mountain train? One side just gets r…

I guess that is based on experience as I have commuted in the swiss alps for years by train. There is even a tunnel when you are comming from Freiburg in direction of Lausanne/Geneva where you can count down the exact moment the tourists will let escape a collective woooaaaaah once the train exit the tunnel to a majestic view of Lake of Geneva with the alps and the Mont Blanc in the background.

There are some views you never get tired of looking at, especially as seasons, weather, clouds and time of the day makes it an ever changing postcard.

All in all in most of europe the trains usually offer nice views and I often find myself daydreaming about climbing that dirt trail on the left with my bike, riding my motorbike on that twisty road on the right side a few minutes later and what kind of life was it living 500 years ago in the old castle I can see here.

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Post by latexr »

vunderba wrote: post #177
latexr wrote: post #7

> Be it by train or by plane, it offers an unparalleled opportunity to selectively tune out your environment and sink into an engaging activity like watching a movie or just working on your laptop. The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. > But damn, based on how well it all works now, you can just tell by the 4th or 5th generation, Ap…

> The more time passes, the less I can shake the feeling that the world would be better if we tuned out our environment less. While I appreciate the sentiment behind the statement, try living in an area where 90% of the environment is car stereos with subwoofers cranked so loud that you can practically see the air vibrating around you and get back to me. Given that (at least in the west), noise pollution is never rea…

On the flip side, continuously tuning out discomfort is a vicious cycle. You need to feel some of it to be motivated to do something to change your situation.

I’m not advocation for never taking a break, I’m saying that we keep doing more and more of it and should perhaps consider dialling it down. Or at the very least not take tuning out as a slam dunk desired benefit without adverse consequences.

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Post by filmgirlcw »

wayeq wrote: post #203

Airlines should rent these, already set up for movies or whatever. I'd pay to give it a try. I wouldn't want these taking up my carry on space going to and from the airport or to deal with security, so that's another advantage.

Absolutely not. First, the light seal would be different for each person, making for a subpar experience (an experience you’re paying for). Second, given the germs and potential disease spread via the face/eyes, this seems like a terrible idea unless you were able to sterilize each AVP after each flight, a task that might work for the Bose headphones they put in business class, but that would def be a thing I wouldn’t trust most airlines to do well. Third, you know these things would break all the time, again, leading to a subpar rental experience.

That said, I am a little surprised the Middle Eastern and Asian airlines haven’t adopted these for their international first class cabins (your Singapore Suites, Ethiad Apartments and the private rooms on Emirates).

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Post by Dylan16807 »

jonpurdy wrote: post #171
klabb3 wrote: post #103

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Not criticism, genuinely curious: why? I thought cabin air was exceptionally well cycled and filtered, much more so than other indoor spaces.

I used to think this especially since airlines touted how good the air filtration was when COVID hit. It's actually quite poor and significantly worse than most indoor spaces I've entered (most spaces aren't great at around 800-1600ppm). On planes I've measured※ very high CO2 levels (1800-4000ppm), with the worst air during boarding and deplaning. This matches the findings of others (both amateur and professional res…

Are CO2 levels a useful way to measure filtration?

Are we expecting almost all the clean air to be from outside, minimal amounts from recirculation?

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Post by nine_k »

baxtr wrote: post #214
willemlaurentz wrote: post #3

Agree with author that the plane seems to be the only place where it is socially acceptable to wear the skimask. My wife still makes fun of me when I'm working at home with Vision Pro - I wouldn't wear it out in public. See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41836437

Can you elaborate on the working part? I tested the device in an Apple Store and was blown away by the experience. Such an amazing tool to explore, enjoy and relax. The work part though? I had the same feeling as with the iPad early on. I need a keyboard and a mouse to be productive.

I don't see why won't you be able use a keyboard if you can touch-type. I can imagine that a CAD or an animation app could make great use of the 3D views, a mouse for precise coordinate input, and a keyboard for numeric and text input.

I wonder how soon will Maya or CATIA offer good enough integration. Maybe they already offer it at the high end.

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