Filed: WP Engine Inc. v Automattic Inc. and Matthew Charles Mullenweg [pdf]

Post by wyclif » Fri, Oct 11, 2024, 3:16 AM UTC

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No, it's not well-engineered (speaking with over 25 years as a professional software engineer), at least the portions of the code I have looked at. Things I vaguely remember (it's been ten years since I looked at it) are lack of data normalization (and not in a performance optimizing way), template includes that depend directly on order of inclusion and variables in other templates, very little code isolation, and PH…

Ah yes, the infamous 12-year-old fractal of bad design article which is almost entirely obsolete.

Post by bsbsjsusj » Sun, Oct 13, 2024, 11:44 AM UTC

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> Sure, but to do that they'd need to know they are about to be cut off, something which they were given zero warning about According to Automattic they had been in discussions for 20 months. Your anger should be with WPEngine for taking your money while knowing full well their service depended on servers ran by a company they were on (best case) shaky terms with. Up until about 8 months ago, Bluehost (another big pa…

"WPEngine should have foreseen something that has never happened in the 20 years of the software's history". I mean yeah, companies should have contingency plans for things that are extraordinarily rare but let's be reasonable about it. No one, including you, saw this coming. I challenge you to find a single blog post, tweet or HN/Reddit comment that suggests Matt could one day shut off wp.org access to a single comp…

Post by bsbsjsusj » Sun, Oct 13, 2024, 11:50 AM UTC

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A million people trusted WPE’s resources. WPE, in turn, relied on someone else’s. The real issue here is that WPE completely overlooked the fact that they haven’t done the work to maintain the availability of their apps. It’s like buying a fridge, stocking it with $200 worth of food, and forgetting to plug it in.

More like buying a fridge and then the landlord stops paying for electricity suddenly

Post by dncornholio » Wed, Oct 16, 2024, 1:30 PM UTC

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The revision system is terrible though. Even we limit it for our clients. It doubles or triples the amount of queries your site and admin needs to run. Have some multi language plugin on top and your site will be eating memory and cpu. If WordPress would have made an actual usuable revision system, this wouldnt have been an issue at all

I think this is where Matt's perspective actually makes sense: "So, you guys built a $400M/yr business on our open source project, and when you had problems with the revision system, instead of contributing improvements, you just turned it off (and maybe converted it into an enterprise upsell some people are paying extra for!)?" Intel, Google, even Microsoft etc. develop improvements to Linux knowing full well that t…