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Re: The Internet Archive is back online

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Incentivising seeding is hard. Maybe cryptocurrencies can be useful here, but I understand not everyone likes them especially here on HN. In retrospect the ideal setup would have been if archiving was included into the core HTTP protocol.

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Re: The Internet Archive is back online

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It already exists. IA has had a DWeb for 6 years. Nobody seeds it.

Incentivising seeding is hard. Maybe cryptocurrencies can be useful here, but I understand not everyone likes them especially here on HN. In retrospect the ideal setup would have been if archiving was included into the core HTTP protocol.

Cryptocurrencies implies that people would pay / get paid for it... just pay the directly IA then, or your own servers. Cryptocurrencies imply someone's skimming off a lot for their own pockets.

Re: The Internet Archive is back online

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I don't think they censor anything, strictly archiving. Do you know of any instance in which they censored a site?

http://web.archive.org/web/20240000000000*/twitter.com/taylo... For one. I'm just curious what their policy is.

The law trumps their policy, to be blunt. They can't afford legal disputes so complying is the best thing they can do. They're still involved in legal shit for "giving away" ebooks too easily during the pandemic.

Re: The Internet Archive is back online

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I thought Cloudflare was going to provide "Always Online" access to Internet Archive https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflares-always-online-and-th...

That is about us using the Internet Archive to show a snapshot of a page from the Internet Archive when the origin server is down.

Will CF be funding IA for using the service so extensively?

Re: The Internet Archive is back online

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It would be better if the Internet Archive was decentralized without a central point of failure, maybe run on something like bittorent.

You say this as if it is an original idea. Of course the IA is working on this and have been for over 6 years. There already is a DWeb version. They have been advancing DWeb infrastructure. The IA hosts all kinds of DWeb developer events. But it is over 50 petabytes and the IA gets a huge amount of traffic through the regular web that they need to serve quickly and efficiently to their users. Guess what has happened…

https://www.reddit.com/r/DataHoarder/comments/h02jl4/lets_sa...

I’ve always been fascinated by this post.

Re: The Internet Archive is back online

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Kiwi farms

good

An argument can be made that they should retain a copy for future lawsuits / investigations, but... kiwi farms won't have anything public, and I hope that law enforcement has their private archive where they gather everything.

Re: The Internet Archive is back online

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post #25

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Incentivising seeding is hard. Maybe cryptocurrencies can be useful here, but I understand not everyone likes them especially here on HN. In retrospect the ideal setup would have been if archiving was included into the core HTTP protocol.

Cryptocurrencies implies that people would pay / get paid for it... just pay the directly IA then, or your own servers. Cryptocurrencies imply someone's skimming off a lot for their own pockets.

I meant more like in bitcoin how the miners get paid for mining, or how validators are rewarded in proof of stake blockchains. This techniques can be used to incentivised seeders.

Re: The Internet Archive is back online

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There have been so many instances since it's been down that I tried to access IA resources and realized they were unavailable. I'm still bitter that of all the targets a hacker could've chose, it was the IA. Couldn't have happened to a better website. I plan on upping my monthly donation as soon as I can.
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