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The Internet Archive is back online
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Re: The Internet Archive is back online
#32Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think they censor anything, strictly archiving. Do you know of any instance in which they censored a site?
http://web.archive.org/web/20240000000000*/twitter.com/taylo... For one. I'm just curious what their policy is.
I only know what I just read on wikipedia about her, but it seems like she has been heavily doxxed — I'm guessing she requested this information about herself be excluded? If so, I'm not sure I'd classify that as censorship.
Re: The Internet Archive is back online
#33It would be better if the Internet Archive was decentralized without a central point of failure, maybe run on something like bittorent.
That would be an awful lot of replication or very shitty archive. Decentralization works when each node can serve all the functions and content alone or when you don't care about completeness.
Unless I'm missing something, an archive is not something small or something that's just as good when part of it is missing.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would assume they delete illegal stuff as they are compelled to. What I'd like to know is their policy for legal stuff that they exclude that is not as a result of DMCA.
Can you give an example? EDIT: Just seen your other reply. Perhaps it was excluded due to right to forget laws?
If you ask them they will remove sites that you created. It's not under right to forget laws as they don't exist in the US. What I'd like to know is whether they also delete the data or just make it inaccessible.
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#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
http://web.archive.org/web/20240000000000*/twitter.com/taylo... For one. I'm just curious what their policy is.
I only know what I just read on wikipedia about her, but it seems like she has been heavily doxxed — I'm guessing she requested this information about herself be excluded? If so, I'm not sure I'd classify that as censorship.
It's her own tweets, not dox.
Re: The Internet Archive is back online
#36When the internet archive censors a website is it deleted permanently or just not publicly available?
They black out all items that get a DMCA complaint or similar request (so it's still there just not accessible). However they permanently delete illegal stuff.
Honestly we are so lucky to have something like this. Solving this problem in a decentralized manner is so hard, and when a centralized solution has its drawbacks, when done properly (i.e. not for making money but serving greater values) is invaluable. A gift.
Re: The Internet Archive is back online
#37Still down in my town.
The Internet Archive is not, in fact, completely online (as the article explains but the title doesn’t). The Wayback Machine, which is part of it, is kind of online but (in my experience) you are going to experience HTTP 504 timeouts from time to time on the first query for a given (URL, date) pair as it seemingly goes out to slower storage. (Long delays happened in the past occasionally as well but not to the point of a 504.)
Re: The Internet Archive is back online
#38It would be better if the Internet Archive was decentralized without a central point of failure, maybe run on something like bittorent.
You say this as if it is an original idea. Of course the IA is working on this and have been for over 6 years. There already is a DWeb version. They have been advancing DWeb infrastructure. The IA hosts all kinds of DWeb developer events. But it is over 50 petabytes and the IA gets a huge amount of traffic through the regular web that they need to serve quickly and efficiently to their users. Guess what has happened…
How does one contribute? In the article you linked:
> there is no information on how users can get involved in the decentralized version of Archive.org and who the peers are that are distributing the content.
The other link doesn't mention how people could help host data either. If there is a way, then it seems like more of a marketing issue if those willing are unaware or unable to figure out how. I can't find any actionable steps on how to contribute.
edit - it seems the dweb version was a frontend for archive.org testing serving IA content over alternative protocols. It was never finished or expanded on unfortunately. Links to it are dead but here's the github repo https://github.com/internetarchive/dweb-archive
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
Incentivising seeding is hard. Maybe cryptocurrencies can be useful here, but I understand not everyone likes them especially here on HN. In retrospect the ideal setup would have been if archiving was included into the core HTTP protocol.
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Actually I think their wild ideas are contributing to this discussion.. I think your apparent hurt at this suggestion is a bit silly tbh.
Hear me out. I hadn't heard of the prior work you are raging about. But I am interested in decentralised tech - so, by this person mentioning their idea it got me interested to read further. Then you entered and went a bit madlad on them.. I'm not sure why when you could have just said "good question, here is everything we know about the effort to do exactly this" and then maybe that hacker would have been inspired to go read and maybe contribute. Just my 2 cents ;-)
Re: The Internet Archive is back online
#40When the internet archive censors a website is it deleted permanently or just not publicly available?
I don't think they censor anything, strictly archiving. Do you know of any instance in which they censored a site?