https://www.reuters.com/graphics/ISRAEL-PALESTINIANS/ANNIVER... linked from there was also worth reading. Staggering.
How Israel’s bulky pager fooled Hezbollah
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#12Key components are 6 grams of white pentaerythritol tetranitrate (PETN) and "highly flammable material" as a detonator. PETN was developed in 1906, and is accessible to more advanced hobby chemists.
So we have explosive device that passes through airport security scanner. And can be made at home by dedicated individuals... What are the implications for air travel?
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#13Wow, they did a licensing deal with a legitimate manufacturer in Taiwan to get the battery listed on official websites? This runs so much deeper than I expected.
Supply chains are one heck of an attack surface...
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Israel has killed (and still is) killing tens of thousands of women and children, and starving the rest of the population.
If this were true you would see a lawsuit based on Leahy law in the states. The fact is it's just not. Israel has held aid occasionally but most of the problem with supplies have to do with Hamas stealing them.
https://www.state.gov/key-topics-bureau-of-democracy-human-r...
I don't support a lot of the stuff Israel is doing but painting it in this light is deeply incorrect and unfortunately hurts Palestinians. Both sides escalate and the result of such escalations are always worse for the weaker side.
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#15This section of the literal Geneva Convention [1], which Israel is a signatory of [2] seems rather relevant. While this article's breakdown of the what's and how's is quite interesting, keeping international law in mind while talking about the attack seems important.
- "2. It is prohibited to use booby-traps or other devices in the form of apparently harmless portable objects which are specifically designed and constructed to contain explosive material."
[1]: https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/ccw-amended-p...
[2]: https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/en/ihl-treaties/ccw-amended-p...
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#16Key components are 6 grams of white pentaerythritol tetranitrate (PETN) and "highly flammable material" as a detonator. PETN was developed in 1906, and is accessible to more advanced hobby chemists. So we have explosive device that passes through airport security scanner. And can be made at home by dedicated individuals... What are the implications for air travel?
Airlines are already banning pagers and walkie talkies.
I wonder how many duds are currently being processed by Hezbollah right now.
(0): https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/07/world/middleeast/emirates...
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#18So did Mossad listen to the pagers ? I mean, instead of putting a bomb inside, spying would make more sense to me...
> spying would make more sense to me..
Probably they did. The problem with pager like communication is that it is very easy to employ codewords. Something like "if we send orange, bring your weapon and meet us at the market, if we send pear pack a week worth of stuff and meet us at the pumping station, if we send melon disappear to the countryside for two days". Monitoring that can give you a sense that "something is happening" but it won't tell you exactly what. So all in all it is not terribly valuable.
But if I would be working for Hez I would assume that all communication over the pagers have been completely compromised.
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#19https://www.reuters.com/graphics/ISRAEL-PALESTINIANS/ANNIVER... linked from there was also worth reading. Staggering.
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