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Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by imchillyb »

dullcrisp wrote: post #272
1oooqooq wrote: post #256

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> overwhelming with 5 sizes already. without jobs it's just a matter of time they go back to being "just an expensive dell" like before

What makes you say that?

Not OP, but...

That very behavior was troublesome for Apple in the past, twice.

Two times Steve Jobs swooped in and saved Apple from Dell-ifying themselves. Twice.

Since Job's demise, Apple has relentlessly marched toward Dellification once more. The immediate revenue is tantalizing, it's the dilution of ones own market that ends up killing the golden goose, and the eggs they lay.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by fhdsgbbcaA »

metadat wrote: post #182

Why is the bezel so thick? A 1-2cm bezel around the entire "mini" device seems a bit odd, given that the iPad Mini is a relatively tiny device and phones these days come with a 1-2mm bezel (10x less useless border). Is it a cost saving measure / sneaky margin increaser, or what might be the motivation? Edit: Touch interference is a good idea. Still, from the picture, it looks like the bezel could be half as thick and…

Honestly with a tablet I prefer some bezel so I can hold it without touching the screen. I have both a 9th Gen iPad and an M2 iPad Pro, I use the “inferior” one almost exclusively.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by theshackleford »

brandonmenc wrote: post #286
hankman86 wrote: post #225

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So that they can release a successor model with thinner bezels. In reality this may be to (1) to keep costs down and (2) to distance the iPad mini from the more premium iPhone Pro Max. All in all, this device leaves me wondering who this is for? iPads are mostly used for media consumption, no matter how Apple wants to position them. Not sure why this necessitates AI hardware, but perhaps people really start using iPa…

> Perhaps they are targeting people with a smaller iPhone who want another device to watch YouTube. Hi, it me. I have an iPhone 13 Mini that will have to be pried from my cold dead hands because it's about as big a phone as I'm willing to carry (I'd still rather have the 5s form factor.) I also have an iPad Mini that supplements it perfectly. Really don't want anything larger, because I like to handle it with one han…

> There is absolutely no way I'd buy a phone as gigantic as a Max.

It's not gigantic for everyone to be fair. I'm 6′1″ with largish hands I suppose and the Max is a single hand device for me. Small devices look comical in my hands. I was one of those very well served by Apple starting to make larger devices, and it's when I shifted over from Android full time to iOS devices. (I was very fond of the early generation Galaxy Note devices prior to that.)

> Honestly not sure how people walk around with those things.

The same way as I do anything of that size. It goes in my pocket or i'm holding it?

I get where you are coming from those because my partner has a much smaller 13 line device and we've done some basic testing and like you, shifting to a Max sized device...well, its just not very likely. My phone looks absolutely jumbo once you put it in her teeny hands.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by stevage »

brandonmenc wrote: post #286
hankman86 wrote: post #225

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So that they can release a successor model with thinner bezels. In reality this may be to (1) to keep costs down and (2) to distance the iPad mini from the more premium iPhone Pro Max. All in all, this device leaves me wondering who this is for? iPads are mostly used for media consumption, no matter how Apple wants to position them. Not sure why this necessitates AI hardware, but perhaps people really start using iPa…

> Perhaps they are targeting people with a smaller iPhone who want another device to watch YouTube. Hi, it me. I have an iPhone 13 Mini that will have to be pried from my cold dead hands because it's about as big a phone as I'm willing to carry (I'd still rather have the 5s form factor.) I also have an iPad Mini that supplements it perfectly. Really don't want anything larger, because I like to handle it with one han…

If I didn't have to spend the $, I'd totally have a small phone for when I leave the house, and a bigger device like this for when I'm at home.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by brandonmenc »

theshackleford wrote: post #303
brandonmenc wrote: post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Perhaps they are targeting people with a smaller iPhone who want another device to watch YouTube. Hi, it me. I have an iPhone 13 Mini that will have to be pried from my cold dead hands because it's about as big a phone as I'm willing to carry (I'd still rather have the 5s form factor.) I also have an iPad Mini that supplements it perfectly. Really don't want anything larger, because I like to handle it with one han…

> There is absolutely no way I'd buy a phone as gigantic as a Max. It's not gigantic for everyone to be fair. I'm 6′1″ with largish hands I suppose and the Max is a single hand device for me. Small devices look comical in my hands. I was one of those very well served by Apple starting to make larger devices, and it's when I shifted over from Android full time to iOS devices. (I was very fond of the early generation G…

I mean yeah, of course I know how people hold and walk around with these devices. I was being silly.

Everything you said about large hands rings true for small hands and the mini form factor, but instead of just looking silly it's a hinderance.

We need both form factors. What I don't think we need is the weird middle size (current regular iPhone size), but I'm sure that's probably the one most people actually want if they could only pick one.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by fhdsgbbcaA »

imchillyb wrote: post #301
dullcrisp wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What makes you say that?

Not OP, but... That very behavior was troublesome for Apple in the past, twice. Two times Steve Jobs swooped in and saved Apple from Dell-ifying themselves. Twice. Since Job's demise, Apple has relentlessly marched toward Dellification once more. The immediate revenue is tantalizing, it's the dilution of ones own market that ends up killing the golden goose, and the eggs they lay.

Don’t worry, locking you into their services will make it impossible to leave!

The one overarching success of the Tim Cook era is ruthlessly pursuing consumer lock in at all costs.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by ks2048 »

gcanyon wrote: post #269

If it were possible to do so, I would possibly buy this as my new "phone": - I almost never hold my phone to my ear - I don't need the dual-lens features of the new iPhones - Standby battery life seems up to the challenge - Apple doesn't offer the iPhone Mini anymore, which is what I'm carrying now. If I'm going bigger, why not actually go BIGger. Things holding me back: - Not actually sure about the battery life - A…

Last last point makes me wonder: why have phone numbers at all?

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by jdietrich »

wvenable wrote: post #273
Retr0id wrote: post #237

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Are "standard" screen sizes really something you have to care about at Apple-scale?

Yes, LCDs are made as giant sheets that are cut into panels. They will want to cut those sheets in a way to ensure the least amount of waste as possible. They are not making them completely arbitrary sizes.

That giant sheet of mother glass is 2940mm x 3370mm. Cutting efficiency dictates the size of TVs, but it's basically irrelevant for phone or tablet displays.

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by dartharva »

metadat wrote: post #182

Why is the bezel so thick? A 1-2cm bezel around the entire "mini" device seems a bit odd, given that the iPad Mini is a relatively tiny device and phones these days come with a 1-2mm bezel (10x less useless border). Is it a cost saving measure / sneaky margin increaser, or what might be the motivation? Edit: Touch interference is a good idea. Still, from the picture, it looks like the bezel could be half as thick and…

My thoughts exactly, when I first saw it I thought I had landed on a launch article from 2014

Re: Apple introduces iPad mini built for Apple Intelligence

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Post by dartharva »

xattt wrote: post #264
thorncorona wrote: post #198

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What keeps them addicted to their watch? I've never found a compelling use case where I'd willingly buy another Apple watch.

Exercise tracking is a biggie for me. Integration with Fitness on Apple TV is extremely slick for HIIT and yoga. Also, the third-party Intervals Pro app has been my go-to running app. I started with Apple+Nike since 2010 and a Fitbit Charge in 2015, but nothing let me customize my workouts as much as the Intervals app.

Do you really need it though, or is it some sort of placebo effect in place? I can bet most professional athletes don't use such devices.
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