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Re: Busy Status Bar

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Post by gosub100 »

farts_mckensy wrote: post #517
gosub100 wrote: post #516

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tell the person who is trying to talk that you're busy and you'll get back to them later. It's part of the interpersonal skill of learning to say no.

That would require them to be interrupted, which would subsequently require them to refocus. Your time is not more important than your coworker's time. Each interruption is a drain on productivity, which costs the company money. What part about this do you not understand?

It's not a lack of understanding, it's a difference in belief. I believe you are self-aggrandizing by pretending that you're some rain man whose superhuman skills, not found anywhere else or under any conditions other than pretentious "focus mode" - will evaporate if you're forced to be held to standard of common decency. Sorry dude, nothing you work on is that important.

Re: Busy Status Bar

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Post by IIsi50MHz »

gosub100 wrote: post #521
farts_mckensy wrote: post #517

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would require them to be interrupted, which would subsequently require them to refocus. Your time is not more important than your coworker's time. Each interruption is a drain on productivity, which costs the company money. What part about this do you not understand?

It's not a lack of understanding, it's a difference in belief. I believe you are self-aggrandizing by pretending that you're some rain man whose superhuman skills, not found anywhere else or under any conditions other than pretentious "focus mode" - will evaporate if you're forced to be held to standard of common decency. Sorry dude, nothing you work on is that important.

Your belief is based on a misunderstanding. If you have not worked in a context where holding large amounts of details and their relationships in your head does not lead to "losing the picture" when interrupted, you have had a luxury not everyone gets to experience.

Getting "into the flow", or loading/reloading the details into your head typically takes 15 to 30 minutes for sufficiently intricate task or dataset. In such a context, a mere, "Hey, you got a minute?" is costly — more so, if i happens repeatedly during the day.

Treasure your freedom from such difficulties.

Re: Busy Status Bar

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Post by IIsi50MHz »

gosub100 wrote: post #516
farts_mckensy wrote: post #514

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Walk on eggshells? Schedule a designated time to talk. It's not that difficult. Are you that disorganized that you need to share your thoughts the second they occur to you? Even for neurotypicals, it takes some time to refocus after interruption. Your approach has been proven to lower productivity and its costs companies serious money.

Tell the person who is trying to talk that you're busy and you'll get back to them later. It's part of the interpersonal skill of learning to say no.

Displaying a "Busy" signal is a way of implementing "No.". Another part of personal skills is learning when to not interrupt. Implementing an unambiguous signal can help. Learning to not ignore the signal helps. As long as the signal isn't abused or isn't "always on".

Re: Busy Status Bar

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Post by farts_mckensy »

gosub100 wrote: post #521
farts_mckensy wrote: post #517

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would require them to be interrupted, which would subsequently require them to refocus. Your time is not more important than your coworker's time. Each interruption is a drain on productivity, which costs the company money. What part about this do you not understand?

It's not a lack of understanding, it's a difference in belief. I believe you are self-aggrandizing by pretending that you're some rain man whose superhuman skills, not found anywhere else or under any conditions other than pretentious "focus mode" - will evaporate if you're forced to be held to standard of common decency. Sorry dude, nothing you work on is that important.

The importance of my work is determined by the people paying me, not some dipshit on hacker news. And fortunately they value my time enough to allow for deep work hours. It's not that difficult.

Allowing for constant interruptions under the guise of "collaboration" costs companies money. If you're in a management situation, you should know that your attitude will lead to waste.

Re: Busy Status Bar

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Post by shadowpho »

echoangle wrote: post #193
shadowpho wrote: post #172

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no, that's not how much that costs at all lol

Ever been on Aliexpress? I was roughly converting prices from € to $ and adding some spare for tolerance, here’s what I actually paid: LED Matrix: 5 for 6,33€ (that is 1,27€ each) ESP32 C3 Supermini: 3 for 3,56€ (1,19€ each) There’s scrap acrylic at my makerspace so I was guessing, make it 10€ and I’m at 23€ or so. What numbers do you not believe?

Who’s doing the case? Who’s doing the buttons? Who’s gonna put it together? Testing? Programming? Flashing? How about handling returns? Packaging? Design for all of the above?

Re: Busy Status Bar

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Post by nine_k »

simonask wrote: post #480
VyseofArcadia wrote: post #474

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There is a special place in hell for PMs who can't wait for daily standup to get your status update. There is an even more special place in hell for PMs who schedule an additional regular status update meeting.

Wait, I thought PMs were explicitly not allowed in standups, and that standups are explicitly not status meetings.

Standups nearly always involve reporting status. At MPOW they involve short discussions on what may be blocking and who / what could help.

Re: Busy Status Bar

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Post by rgrmrts »

gosub100 wrote: post #520
ggiesen wrote: post #479

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You absolutely do. Many coworkers will bug you to ask instead of doing their own research, bug you to chitchat, etc. They can always book time with you, send an email/IM, etc if there's something they can't resolve on their own. You have your own deliverables and being interrupted every 10 minutes with inane questions that a web search or a look at the internal wiki/KB would have resolved is not a productive use of a…

You had to ask people things when you learned. It's not different now that you're the one with the knowledge. And sometimes people not using the docs means your documentation sucks or needs updating

The problem isn’t people or colleagues asking for help, the problem is feeling entitled to your time exactly when they want it. No one would get any work done if no one had schedules and respected meetings at pre-arranged times.

Also, no one I collaborated with or on my team was ever the issue (except that one time at my first job when someone lied their way into a role, and constantly asked me to do their job). If my team member ever wanted to chat or distract me I had no issue.

It’s the fucking CEO who hasn’t bothered to talk to you for a month and ignore every email walking up to your desk, literally knocking on your table to get you to take your headphones off and give them your attention and saying “hey, when is this new feature gonna be done” when the project management software shows very clearly that everything is on track to ship at X date.

Really this isn’t about collaboration, it’s about people being entitled.

Re: Busy Status Bar

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Post by nixosbestos »

kajecounterhack wrote: post #167
drdaeman wrote: post #144

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Feels like a problem in search for a solution to me. Although I haven’t worked in an office for a while now, so it could be that I’m not understanding the importance in such setting (or whatever is this device’s target use environment) that can’t be replaced with a sticky note.

Geez the creator obviously doesn't think this is a necessity. It's just introducing a little whimsy and fun. Nobody cares if you don't want to buy or use it.

Oh ho, you got me. Bruh, if I was here rallying against consumerism with any thought that it would matter, well, I'd be an idiot.

Re: Busy Status Bar

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Post by karunamurti »

Aurornis wrote: post #289

This is at least the 3rd version of this product idea that I’ve seen in the past decade. Certainly the nicest design! The first time I saw this was some friends of friends who were trying to make it into a startup. They quickly discovered that their users liked the idea of a busy light for the office, but didn’t like to update it on or off throughout the day. So after the first few days people just defaulted to leavi…

Just give me lockable cubicle please.

Re: Busy Status Bar

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Post by ndndjdjdn »

refulgentis wrote: post #505
ndndjdjdn wrote: post #384

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People are conflating the problem space and this solution. This doesn't let you do deep work! Probably the opposite, it is a gimmick that will attract a nerd mob to your desk to ooh over it.

You're trolling and that's not cool

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