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Cargo Airships Are Happening

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Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

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post #132

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Maybe it's still a customs/border facility. It can just be inland now, away from the very expensive waterfront/costal property

Would that inland facility still have a 100 mile jurisdiction boundary around it as well?

Yes, of course, with a grid of these facilities across the country.

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

#162
post #149

This reads as a technologist that has absolutely no clue about anything regarding the shipping or the logistics industry. I hope someone told these guys what the spent is on new (water) ships globally, because it points only in one direction.

"I hope someone told these guys what the spent is on new (water) ships globally, because it points only in one direction." What IS spent on new ships globally, and what direction does it point in?

New container ships being built is around all time high. Look it up.

It points to that the business is not only doing good but that investments is being made, heavily.

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

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Not sure how realistic, but could the inspectors go to the airship instead? They are not planes: Not only can they "park" while airborne, but at least there were concepts of boarding/unboarding in the air as well: https://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/26/realestate/26scapes.html

They could in theory but I'm dubious governments will be willing to shape their customs enforcement to accommodate this company. Best case I think they might be able to do a drop off at a place for customs inspections and pick them up again with a different craft once cleared.

Is that really so different from how customs officers go on board trains now?

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

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Reading that article I see no proposed solutions to this sail problem. They mention wind as an issue for delivery times but not safety. There's also no acknowledgement that the "scaling law" that makes building huge airships lucrative also makes these problems worse.

You're failing to see the secret that is exposed by the fact that their Chief Engineer comes from hyperloop. They're going to dig tunnels connecting all their destinations and run the airships underground in a vacuum sealed network. No atmospheric drag at all! Bingo!

How can you call yourself an engineer and work on the hyperloop. Literally only takes about 30s of thought to realize it is an impossible idea.

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

#165
In the render it shows the airship directly loading while hovering above a warehouse. This is currently not allowed under FAA regulations and would require a regulatory change. Not being able to do that makes a lot of the business model assumptions questionable.

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

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The article is talking about atlantic freight trips - middle of the ocean is not one of those places with light winds.

"Hindenburg made 17 round trips across the Atlantic in 1936 — its first and only full year of service — with ten trips to the United States and seven to Brazil."

A modern ship can make the same number of trips and not be dependent on weather at all.

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

#167

> "But for air freight service, end-to-end delivery takes a week or more, involving multiple parties: in addition to the air carrier and freight forwarder, at both the origin and destination, there is a trucking company, a warehouse, a customs broker, and an airport. Each touchpoint adds cost, delay, and the risk of theft or breakage." How does an airship solve any of those problems? Its still got to go through custo…

Let's say airfreight takes 7 days, with the flight being one of them. Then his airship would take 11 days, which is not much worse. He was expecting the comparison to be 5:1.

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

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It doesn’t. The author is dreaming that airships might be able to just drop cargo off anywhere and I guess customs just happens in software somehow. Nor is it clear how they are refuelled, or how they are immune from the same fluctuations in fuel cost as conventional cargo aircraft. But what is clear is that you should “possibly invest” in his syndicate which is funding all this…

Customs in software is already a bit of a thing, judging from what postal tracking reports on occasion. I guess that doesn’t obviate the need for physical inspections, but it should make them faster.

The issue is customs isn’t going to happen at some random factory / job site. International mail looks point to point from and end users perspective but as far as the government in concerned it’s all going throw a small number of locations as it enters the county. At least relative to the number of street addresses.

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

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post #149

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"I hope someone told these guys what the spent is on new (water) ships globally, because it points only in one direction." What IS spent on new ships globally, and what direction does it point in?

New container ships being built is around all time high. Look it up. It points to that the business is not only doing good but that investments is being made, heavily.

If the economics work, I’d imagine the best time is when there are the most ships built since that indicates unmet cargo demand.

Re: Cargo Airships Are Happening

#170

This reads as a technologist that has absolutely no clue about anything regarding the shipping or the logistics industry. I hope someone told these guys what the spent is on new (water) ships globally, because it points only in one direction.

Yeah, it seems like every attempt at an airship company for the last 70 years or so just ends up speed-running the development of modern travel/logistics that makes airships obsolete. Same way crypto is/was speed-running the need for modern financial regulation.

On a broader scale I also wonder if we're near the top of a technological S-curve. It's worth remembering that until the industrial revolution the average pace of technological advance was extremely slow. The Mongols conquered Asia with weaponry that would have been instantly familiar to people living 2000 years earlier. Perhaps our descendants 1000 years from now will still be using refrigerators virtually identical to our own.

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