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World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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That's more or less it. You make a hole through your 'conker' (horse chestnut, not the edible type) and thread a string or a bootlace through it. Then you take turns. One holds their string still and lets the conker hang down, the other gets a swing at it with their conker. Whoever's conker lasts the longest is the winner. There were all sorts of rumours about baking them, or soaking in vinegar or what have you to ha…

Ho do you drill the hole? I'm having trouble imagining kids with needles in their pockets, do you do it with a pencil or toothpick? We've got a ton of horse chestnuts in my neighborhood but I've never heard of this game and I'm eager to introduce it to my kids. Also, doesn't the conker spiral around your hand hitting it and hurting you?

The memoir Where Did You Go? Out. What Did You Do? Nothing describes using a heated icepick.

You take a chestnut, and you hook the ice pick. You wait until nobody is in the kitchen, and then one kid presses down on the pilot-light button so that a long delicate blue finger of flame comes out, and the other kid puts the ice pick in the flame until it is red-hot. When it is, he bores a hole in the chestnut. You do as many as you can until somebody comes and asks you what you are doing, and then, according to your standing in the family, that day, you either plead, argue, or say, “Oh, jeez,” and slink away.

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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> instead of expressing displeasure at the imagined expectations imposed on readers of the article Well it is the author's expectation, isn't it? I also left the article wondering what in the world conker was. I don't think it matters where the game is from or where the reader lives. It's just good writing to do a bit of explaining for the foreign readers, of which The Guardian knows they have.

Now imagine adding an explanation of american football rules on every article about it, of which there are probably hundreds written a day. I have no clue about american football rules - I barely know the sport exists, the ball has a funny shape, and that it's popular in the states. Still it would be absolute nonsense to explain their basics every time someone talks about them and I won't expect anyone to do so. Expl…

No one said it was true for every game. Conker is more akin to corn hole than football, but maybe even more obscure.

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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I love how your comment is assuming that anybody here who's not British must be American. I'm Dutch and had never heard of conker before either.

I think the assumption is more that someone who's offended that the Guardian didn't explain a mainstay British playground game to their readers... Is probably from the USA.

I think the assumption is that the assumption assumes asinine intent akin to adopting ambiguous alliteration.

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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Interesting, as conkers are seeds (not a nut) - so shouldn't be an issue for someone with a nut allergy - though no doubt some people are allergic to them.

It's not quite that simple. The line isn't quite as hard between seed and 'nut'. Namely people may commonly refer to things as a nut when it is a seed. e.g. a Peanut is a seed, as are almonds, cashews, walnuts.

Very true - I'll admit that while I knew that peanuts are legumes not nuts, I didn't know that the others you mentioned were not nuts. I learn something new every day (and my son has a severe allergy to many of them - though not all - so I should know these things!).

And while I know my son can safely play with conkers, we most certainly have not tried to eat one!

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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This rabbit hole goes deep. Berries are particularly poorly named - stawberries, blackberries, and blueberries aren't actually berries but tomatoes and bananas are.

> stawberries, blackberries, and blueberries aren't actually berries Yes they are > tomatoes and bananas are No they’re not. The word “berry” is much older and more fundamental to language than the technical botanical definition that a tiny minority of people know or care about.

You clearly understand that there's a difference between the colloquial name and the scientific definition. In the context of the GP comment, the discussion was related to nuts that are poorly named (like peanuts and tree nuts that are actually seeds).

Strawberries aren't berries and tomatoes are. You can say that's wrong all you like, but in the context of how they are botanically classified rather than what we named them you're incorrect.

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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> Mainstay? For sure it is. Every boy (and probably some girls, but never seen myself) plays conkers and likely puts their life in great peril climbing horse chestnut trees to gather the best conkers before anyone else gets them. When I think back now to some of the massive (old) trees I used to climb and the action of shaking the branches to try to get the chestnuts to drop (whilst the branch is breaking underneath…

Not to disparage your heroics, but I am fairly sure you weren't 100ft up, and the tale grew taller in the telling. Conkers is good fun. Though a bit dangerous for modern sensibilities perhaps.

Some trees are pretty damn good for climbing. It scares the shit out of me now, but I’m fairly certain I’ve gotten to some 7-10 meters up. That’s only like 30 feet though, I don’t think I’ve even seen trees that were 100ft high xD

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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Conkers is a traditional children's game in Great Britain and Ireland played using the seeds of horse chestnut trees—the name 'conker' is also applied to the seed and to the tree itself. The game is played by two players, each with a conker threaded onto a piece of string: they take turns striking each other's conker until one breaks.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conkers

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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The Dutch are direct. In Britain you’re not allowed to be.

> Or are you expected to have to google it? It's clearly the implication that you shouldn't have to Google for it. That isn't directness, it's passive aggressiveness, which the Dutch are not stereotypically known for.

> That isn't directness, it's passive aggressiveness, which the Dutch are not stereotypically known for.

No need to be passively aggressive if you can be actively aggressive ;)

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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I understood that was a myth created from a few isolated instances and the medias general desire to wind people up. I don't know why it has died out mind.

The HSE posted on their mythbusting site that it was a myth at a national level, but I suppose individual schools might have done so? https://web.archive.org/web/20211018040605/https://www.hse.g... Quote: " Realistically the risk from playing conkers is incredibly low and just not worth bothering about. If kids deliberately hit each other over the head with conkers, that's a discipline issue, not health and safety. "…

The headteacher said himself that story was misreported — he bought the goggles as a joke.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2009/dec/09/conker...

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