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World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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post #70

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I wouldn't be surprised if many of the "techniques" softened it but made it more resistant to shattering. An extremely hard but brittle conker would probably make for poor results.

Interesting. I can certainly see how brittleness is probably fatal. But a soft one won't be any help at breaking your opponent's conker, either, right? Unless speed of your conker can overcome the increased inefficiency of transmitting energy into the opponent's...

Everything can be a sport if you try hard enough.

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

#92
post #67

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>It seems like a bad move to have a participant responsible for drilling the holes and attaching the strings. Part of the "point" of conkers is that conker-prep is just as much as a skill as the technique during the hitting phase. I think this was just poor scrutineering (or corruption) on the organizers side.

That would make sense to me, but it seems like maybe it isn’t how they did it? > Jakins was responsible for drilling and inserting strings into other competitors’ chestnuts as the competition’s top judge, known as the “King Conker”.

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Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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Is this game well-known enough in Britain and Ireland that readers will know what on earth is being alleged just from reading this article? Or are you expected to have to google it? Apparently it’s a game where you take turns swinging a chestnut on a string and trying to hit the opponent’s chestnut and break it. Yes, I can see how a steel fake chestnut would be an advantage here, though I’m amazed it wouldn’t be inst…

Yes, conkers is sufficiently well-known enough as a children's schoolyard game that I would expect pretty much every newspaper-reading adult to have heard of it. The fact that there is supposedly an "adult" championship event would be a surprise to most. If you're looking for the "story behind the story", other than the fact that it's a seasonally-specific, light human-interest story: there is probably a slight cultu…

I think you’re reading way, way too much into this. Read the piece and it seems like just a goofy little oddball story, makes for a light and enjoyable read, I’m really not picking up any political angle in this piece.

The Guardian are certainly a left-leaning, frequently political paper, but that doesn’t mean every story is political, and IMO this one isn’t.

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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> Jakins was responsible for drilling and inserting strings into other competitors’ chestnuts as the competition’s top judge, known as the “King Conker”.

So the "judge" who prepped the conkers for everyone and stringed them also competed in the competition and won

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

#95
post #33

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Considering that it's called a world championship, someone should study the sport in-depth! Are the players allowed to swing the chestnut in a circle like a sling? Can they use carbon fiber strings, or maybe some sort of elastic string to build up more energy? Or can the player use a heavy string so it can crack like a whip? Fancy arm/wrist/fingers movements to accelerate the chestnut in the last moment? What's the o…

This all kind of takes the fun out of it don't you think? Not every game needs to have the fun sucked out of it by endless optimization and instrumental play. Just conk some chestnuts. Simple as.

What you find fun or unfun need not match other people's preferences. You can tell us what's fun or unfun for you, but you can't tell other people they're having fun wrong.

I personally find a lot of optimization problems very fun and can keep at them for a long time.

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

#96
post #89

This article on hackernews reads the same as "Advancing Theorem Proving in LLMs through Large-Scale Synthetic Data" would on conkernews.

I'm also pretty disturbed by it being here. Even worse on place #1.

I'd recommend finding more important things to be disturbed by.

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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Yes, conkers is sufficiently well-known enough as a children's schoolyard game that I would expect pretty much every newspaper-reading adult to have heard of it. The fact that there is supposedly an "adult" championship event would be a surprise to most. If you're looking for the "story behind the story", other than the fact that it's a seasonally-specific, light human-interest story: there is probably a slight cultu…

It never occurred to me that conkers could be a class thing and you could be right. But let it be known that conkers was extremely popular at my state school; me and all of my friends grew up to be pretty left wing too by the way. Also they banned it at my school, along with pogs, yoyos, etc.

It's not a class thing.

Fox hunting, horse riding, polo and skiing... yes. Conkers, No.

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

#98
post #89

This article on hackernews reads the same as "Advancing Theorem Proving in LLMs through Large-Scale Synthetic Data" would on conkernews.

I'm also pretty disturbed by it being here. Even worse on place #1.

Hijacking page on place#1 to post this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rP3AAjsiqY

"Show HN: Two purple Conkers.. and one yellow honker. In Python using PyBangSwackThump With Fleshy Bits"

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

#99
post #89

This article on hackernews reads the same as "Advancing Theorem Proving in LLMs through Large-Scale Synthetic Data" would on conkernews.

I'm also pretty disturbed by it being here. Even worse on place #1.

#1 does feel a bit much but I don't mind getting a kick out of titles/situations which could be interpreted immaturely.

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

#100
post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It never occurred to me that conkers could be a class thing and you could be right. But let it be known that conkers was extremely popular at my state school; me and all of my friends grew up to be pretty left wing too by the way. Also they banned it at my school, along with pogs, yoyos, etc.

It's not a class thing. Fox hunting, horse riding, polo and skiing... yes. Conkers, No.

Wherever there is a chestnut tree you'll get conkers. I would imagine it's more of a town/village vs city thing rather than class thing.
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