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World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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It’s just crazy that someone would cheat at something so low-stakes with such a high probability of being caught, but I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised.

People cheat on online cooperative computer games like Helldivers with almost no rewards for being performatively better other than a few imaginary in-game points. People can be weird about the smallest things

Cheating at a PvE game like Helldivers is basically a victimless crime (I don’t do it, but I can see why people would).

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s just crazy that someone would cheat at something so low-stakes with such a high probability of being caught, but I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised.

People cheat on online cooperative computer games like Helldivers with almost no rewards for being performatively better other than a few imaginary in-game points. People can be weird about the smallest things

Fair enough. People cheat at chess too which makes absolutely no sense to me.

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

#33

The World Conker Championships is an annual event held in England, where competitors from around the world play the traditional game of conkers using chestnuts. Each player threads a chestnut, known as a conker, onto a string and takes turns striking their opponent’s conker, aiming to break it. The tournament follows a knockout format, with players advancing until a world champion is declared. The event has been runn…

Considering that it's called a world championship, someone should study the sport in-depth! Are the players allowed to swing the chestnut in a circle like a sling? Can they use carbon fiber strings, or maybe some sort of elastic string to build up more energy? Or can the player use a heavy string so it can crack like a whip? Fancy arm/wrist/fingers movements to accelerate the chestnut in the last moment? What's the optimum strike angle to crack a chestnut along its natural cleavages? This could be so exciting!

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

#34

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The guy the article is about won the men's. At the end, the men's champ plays the women's champ for overall champion. This American mentioned was the women's champ, who apparently went on to beat him. Which either means he wasn't cheating, or was and then played fairly on the last match?

I assume he wouldn't cheat everytime and instead would only do it to reduce the overall wear on the chestnut over many matches?

Apparently they pick a new one each round.

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

#35

I'm surprised they pick their conkers out of a bag. The whole fun when I was a kid was competing for who could find the toughest conker. Common cheating methods included putting it through the tumble dryer to dry it out (Mum didn't love that) or soaking in vinegar. If you're pulling conkers out of a bag I think each match is basically a coin flip, unless there's much more technique I'm missing?

Vinegar makes it stronger? I would naively expect the opposite.

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

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Is this game well-known enough in Britain and Ireland that readers will know what on earth is being alleged just from reading this article? Or are you expected to have to google it? Apparently it’s a game where you take turns swinging a chestnut on a string and trying to hit the opponent’s chestnut and break it. Yes, I can see how a steel fake chestnut would be an advantage here, though I’m amazed it wouldn’t be inst…

Yes, it is. It’s a game most news-reading-age adults will have played when they were at school as children.

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Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

#37

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> The 23-year-old said: “My conker disintegrated in one hit, and that just doesn’t happen … I’m suspicious of foul play and have expressed my surprise to organisers.” It seems the suspicious was pretty quick.

It’s just crazy that someone would cheat at something so low-stakes with such a high probability of being caught, but I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised.

Veblen called sports Conspicuous Leisure. The goal is not fun but that everyone sees you win. So Stakes are Status. And Status gets people things in the same way Cash does.

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

#38

Is this game well-known enough in Britain and Ireland that readers will know what on earth is being alleged just from reading this article? Or are you expected to have to google it? Apparently it’s a game where you take turns swinging a chestnut on a string and trying to hit the opponent’s chestnut and break it. Yes, I can see how a steel fake chestnut would be an advantage here, though I’m amazed it wouldn’t be inst…

I only know of the game because the Conkerer web browser was named after it. http://conkeror.org/

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People cheat on online cooperative computer games like Helldivers with almost no rewards for being performatively better other than a few imaginary in-game points. People can be weird about the smallest things

Cheating at a PvE game like Helldivers is basically a victimless crime (I don’t do it, but I can see why people would).

Cheating with only your friends - yeah, mostly. Cheating with randos sounds like it would lead to boring gameplay.

Re: World conker champion found with steel chestnut, cleared of cheating

#40

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> The 23-year-old said: “My conker disintegrated in one hit, and that just doesn’t happen … I’m suspicious of foul play and have expressed my surprise to organisers.” It seems the suspicious was pretty quick.

It’s just crazy that someone would cheat at something so low-stakes with such a high probability of being caught, but I suppose I shouldn’t be surprised.

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