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Re: Siri is old tech now - check out Google's solution

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I've never tried Siri or S Voice so I can't say anything about the quality of the services or the overall experience but judging by what I saw in the video it didn't seem to me like it was "a complete blowout for Siri."

The main metric in the comparison seemed to be speed, at which S Voice was a little bit better than Siri. Also, voice quality was slightly in favor of S Voice.

The main differences were S Voice offering image results right away instead of asking to open the browser. On the other hand, S Voice required non-voice input to to specify the remineder time whereas Siri carried on "the conversation". Other than that, the two products pretty much behaved exactly the same. Ask something, get a result.

If you ask me, it was more of a 55:45 for S voice based on speed and naturalness of voice but then I don't run a gadget blog...

Re: Siri is old tech now - check out Google's solution

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I've never tried Siri or S Voice so I can't say anything about the quality of the services or the overall experience but judging by what I saw in the video it didn't seem to me like it was "a complete blowout for Siri." The main metric in the comparison seemed to be speed, at which S Voice was a little bit better than Siri. Also, voice quality was slightly in favor of S Voice. The main differences were S Voice offeri…

The video isn't comparing Siri to S Voice (which is Samsung's mediocre Siri-clone), but to Google Voice Search in Android 4.1.

Re: Siri is old tech now - check out Google's solution

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I've never tried Siri or S Voice so I can't say anything about the quality of the services or the overall experience but judging by what I saw in the video it didn't seem to me like it was "a complete blowout for Siri." The main metric in the comparison seemed to be speed, at which S Voice was a little bit better than Siri. Also, voice quality was slightly in favor of S Voice. The main differences were S Voice offeri…

Watch the video again. That's not Samsung's S-Voice. It's Google's new Voice Search. And he's saying it's a lot better than Siri (as other sites and tests have shown, too).

He only mentioned S-Voice because he tested S-voice and Siri in another video (not this one), and in that one Siri beats Samsung's S-voice (powered by Vlingo).

Re: Siri is old tech now - check out Google's solution

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Nice to see a speed improvment, but I could live with a slow Siri if the AI was actually usable. It is broken all the time. If I say

"Play music by Milk Inc."

It might ask me if I want to buy milk. Or if I say

"Play Acappella by Kelis."

It will respond

"Sorry, I can't find a capella in your music."

Stuff like that. And it is borderline unusable at all if I'm out of breath, like when I'm running and handsfree controlls makes sense.

Siri doesn't need a speed improvment. It needs orders of magnitude better AI.

Re: Siri is old tech now - check out Google's solution

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Google's voice assistant was definitely impressive, and clearly had an edge on Siri in the tests he made, but to call it a "blowout" was a bit much.

Google's Voice Search seems faster, it's significantly more accurate (86% vs 68% for Siri), and it also comes with that smart Google Now thing, which learns things about you and recommends stuff for you to do based on your location, or behavior or whatever.

Oh, and Google's "voice" sounds a lot more natural than Siri, too, which sounds more robotic.

Re: Siri is old tech now - check out Google's solution

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The brilliance of Siri isn't the voice interface or the replies using text-to-speech -- it's just the name. People feel they are talking to another person, not a phone or a computer or a google. People understand Siri approximates a person, so they can interact with it informally and somewhat personally.

You see it in all the news coverage. People refer to Siri as a person. It gets into your brain. Have you seen normal people showing off Siri to their friends? They are giddy with excitement over having a personal robot voice in their pocket that knows them by name.

I feel google doesn't employ anybody who has an average family or knows average people. Normal people don't know how things work. What's a "Google Now?" You'd have to look up a definition. It's about ten different things jumbled together under an Enterprise-Grade Naming Convention product umbrella.

Look at the Google Now product intro -- "Google Now has prepared an alternate route for your commute." People have to learn "Google Now" is a product and/or service that does specific things. People simply understand what Siri is after seeing someone else use it for a few seconds.

Even the Google Now tagline requires a level of mental disambiguation: "...with the predictive power of Now..."

Re: Siri is old tech now - check out Google's solution

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post #7

Nice to see a speed improvment, but I could live with a slow Siri if the AI was actually usable. It is broken all the time. If I say "Play music by Milk Inc." It might ask me if I want to buy milk. Or if I say "Play Acappella by Kelis." It will respond "Sorry, I can't find a capella in your music." Stuff like that. And it is borderline unusable at all if I'm out of breath, like when I'm running and handsfree controll…

I propose we stop calling machine transcription and fixed-field extraction "AI." Second?

We all realize Siri is just a fancy Eliza with Internet access, right?

We can resume calling something "AI" when it can order a flight for you from the Ryanair website without making any mistakes (I'm not even at that level yet).

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