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Surprising absolutely no one, I hope. Credibility seems difficult to generate for Tesla events. Maybe the secret sauce for Robotaxis is a human driver somewhere watching the cameras. Like driving Uber but from the comfort of home, and it's easy to hit the fridge or bathroom between rides.
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I mean, shoot me down here, but is it that bad of an idea? If you're going to have an assistant or a taxi driver, and you start off at the base position of "AI is totally unreliable", then having a fully remote gig-worker remotely piloting your robot... I mean, it doesn't seem like a massive stretch from what Uber does. ...and heck, having a 'remote robot body' is pretty cool tech. I guess. As long as you don't use i…
> Is it that bad of an idea? Driving at 60mph with shaky internet connection? Absolutely. Piloting a robot to fold laundry? Maybe not. Allowing random people to pilot robots in your house with children around? Absolutely horrific.
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We had people swearing up and down that the Cybertruck would never be released because it was stock fraud. They already seem to be at a run rate of $1.5 billion in revenue per quarter despite launching in a limited fashion because of manufacturing ramp up.
I haven't really been tracking this, but aren't they selling at a price much greater than they originially announced? I would classify it as "mixed success"
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Waymos have some very advanced teledriving features, and it's not clear to me how often the human is involved when you ride a Waymo. I sort of hope that it's not that often, but I also thought the amazon store was automated.
Waymo vehicles are not driven remotely. Remote assistants give the autonomy stack suggestions for how to proceed rather than drive the vehicle. This doesn't require a low latency connection and the robot is still capable of stopping when the situation changes or proceeding as soon as it's able to without a control handover.
That still isn't really "autonomous," but it's a lot closer than anything Tesla has done. My question, though, is how frequent the interventions actually are.
This results in me trusting Tesla less. If this was fake, how do we know the robovans were not remotely operated? They might as well be too to get the stock price up? There is no way to know. I am really doubting Tesla now. It wouldn’t surprise me that, in order to prevent mishaps during the event, everything is remotely operated… People will say: that’s not true. But where did Tesla clearly specify this upfront? I s…
After reading the Isaacson biography, it’s clear to me Elon is not a stable or trustworthy person. The evidence continues to mount.
That event was a huge disappointment. It's clear that Elon didn't consider it to be that important and didn't put any real effort into it. There was nothing an investor could look at and get excited about, it was the same thing as he announced 5 years ago. Just now his self driving cars have been eclipsed by Waymo and cruise seems to have caught up to what they can do with their demos. And why show the robots at all…
It’s so funny to me when people still believe Elon when it comes to this or deadlines. I used to work for him and he always overpromises Friendly reminder that in 2017 he was saying a car would drive autonomously from LA to NY in a year. It is now 2024 and that has not happened. Friendly reminder that Tesla Semis are still not fully delivered and running. Friendly reminder that the Roadster 2 is not rolling off the p…
However now Tesla cars are protected by a 100% tariff on competitors, and Elon is campaigning for Trump who is now promising 200% tariffs on imported goods.
The gigapress sounded like a good idea when I first heard about it bc it could reduce manufacturing costs, yet Tesla does not seem to have realized any significant improvements in 2024 from it, and needs massive protectionist policies to compete.
It's interesting to imagine the price and performance we'd be seeing (and all the new dealerships and service centers popping up) of Chinese engineered and manufactured EVs if it weren't for the tariffs. Surely there would be some very capable options in the $20K range that would eat the Model 3's lunch. But Elon has government protection to the rescue and so he doesn't have to actually win at engineering or manufacturing, only lobbying.
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> The original price was supposed to be $39,900. However there has been >20% inflation since then That price was announced with a significant lead time, so at least 5-6% inflation was built in already. > and the base model should be eligible for the full $7,500 tax credit applied as an instant rebate at purchase time, which was not available at the time of announcement. It wasn't available that exact moment, but it e…
The $7500 existed only for other manufacturers. It had expired entirely for Tesla. No Tesla model was eligible for any more credits at that time and there was no particular reason to believe that Tesla would ever become eligible again in the future. Also, the credit back then did not directly reduce the price paid at purchase time the way it does today. I think it is fair to apply the credit when comparing to the ann…
If Tesla's jacking up the price because of that rebate, they get NO credit for it. 63k is what they are charging and what I will judge them on.
And I don't think the exact moment it applies really matters.
How is stuff like this not considered fraud? This seems much worse to me than Musk's usual Tesla lies in which he is predicting some future capability. At least there is an argument that Musk believed it those at the time he said them or that they were optimistically possible despite being impractical. This seems to be material misrepresentation of the viability of one of the company's core R&D projects that Musk cla…
Quite a few people at the event asked employees about this and were directly given the answer. It wasn't a secret.
How is stuff like this not considered fraud? This seems much worse to me than Musk's usual Tesla lies in which he is predicting some future capability. At least there is an argument that Musk believed it those at the time he said them or that they were optimistically possible despite being impractical. This seems to be material misrepresentation of the viability of one of the company's core R&D projects that Musk cla…
Nikola (Trevor Milton) was busted for fraud for insinuating that trucks rolling down slopes were working models.
Didn't he say "this is not a pusher?"