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Actually, I won't be surprised if it turns out that the 40 or so cybercabs were remote-controlled too.
Maybe that's the realistic future of 'self-driving' cars. A teledriver-assisted automous car. It just moves the cab driver from behind the wheel to behind a screen somewhere else.
I think it was fairly obvious from the show that the Optimus bots were remotely operated. Not like they tried to hide it at all. Just listen to the responses of the bots, they practically admitted that. The cars, however, were almost certainly running the latest FSD (or some near future unreleased version).
But they did try to hide it. It's in some videos where one of them was trying not to admit they were remotely controlled and that "probably some AI is used"
I think "AI" did control their walking. Although calling that AI is probably a stretch.
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I mean, shoot me down here, but is it that bad of an idea? If you're going to have an assistant or a taxi driver, and you start off at the base position of "AI is totally unreliable", then having a fully remote gig-worker remotely piloting your robot... I mean, it doesn't seem like a massive stretch from what Uber does. ...and heck, having a 'remote robot body' is pretty cool tech. I guess. As long as you don't use i…
> Is it that bad of an idea? Driving at 60mph with shaky internet connection? Absolutely. Piloting a robot to fold laundry? Maybe not. Allowing random people to pilot robots in your house with children around? Absolutely horrific.
To be honest, the autonomous control of the robot seems like the easier part of the equation. (doing it safely in a room with guests, unguided... thats another matter). The physical limitations and packaging are a big challenge, and I dont think I saw Optimus lift anything remotely heavy.. just pull a beer tap.. a decision that probably speaks volumes about current limits of the technology. To apply my first point to…
I've worked in robotics for over 10 years, at state of the art labs and high quality startups. There are really only two hard problems in robotics: Perception and Funding. Perception, especially around a bunch of people, with depth, mapping, understanding traffic and gestures, all in real time etc etc will be a huge problem for these machines for a while. Funding though? I doubt that's an issue right now.
Autonomous cars are in a nice niche since they store vast energy for actuation anyway, it's OK to be heavy, and the controls are relatively simple. They are limited by perception and decision making.
Humanoids are way more limited by energy storage and actuation. Animals are absurdly efficient.
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I mean, shoot me down here, but is it that bad of an idea? If you're going to have an assistant or a taxi driver, and you start off at the base position of "AI is totally unreliable", then having a fully remote gig-worker remotely piloting your robot... I mean, it doesn't seem like a massive stretch from what Uber does. ...and heck, having a 'remote robot body' is pretty cool tech. I guess. As long as you don't use i…
> Is it that bad of an idea? Driving at 60mph with shaky internet connection? Absolutely. Piloting a robot to fold laundry? Maybe not. Allowing random people to pilot robots in your house with children around? Absolutely horrific.
Your risk analysis on this is completely wrong. If there is some vetting here this is fine. No different than a babysitter or a handyman off the Internet