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Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)

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post #34

Sadly the reality for 99% of blogs and news sites nowadays. Makes me wonder whether this is part of the reason why social media sites, YouTube, etc have taken over as a source of information for many people now. Those sites are nightmarish in their own right, but they seem to be less heavy on the annoyances than the average news site now.

> less heavy on the annoyances than the average news site now

or less heavy on the annoyances than the average news site for now

Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)

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Remember a ~year ago there was a swath of articles popping up everywhere, including this site, about how "search is fine actually." I'm glad people are noticing how bad it is now, I promise it has been this way longer than you realize. It's so user hostile it seems comical at times. I completely stopped using search and feel like I live in the dark ages now and have just accepted that's going to be the foreseeable future until I get a new library card.

Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)

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post #4

It's even worse than that, first Google will bug you to use Chrome, then bug you to login, then after your search the browser will pop up "Google would like to use your current location". And then the first half-page of results are ads. And half of the actual results are AI slop and a helpful AI summary of the slop. And that's before you even get to the page.

Oh, don't forget, if you click "Allow (current location)" it will also reload the page.

Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)

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post #48

This is great. I see: - Cookie acceptance overlay - Email prompt when switching away from tab - Push notification custom UI prompt - Push notification browser prompt - Subscribe to our newsletter prompt - Ad blocker detected modal - Please subscribe overlay - Continue reading overlay - Ratings prompt - Floating feedback button - "How can I help you?" chat popup - Email prompt when scrolling - Create an account footer…

Could we do something similar but for top level DOM? It's called "reader mode" on most browsers.

Sadly, development of reader mode seems to be stagnant for both Firefox and Chrome. While it works for a substantial number of pages, I was hoping that more pages would work as years go by. Too bad that doesn't appear to have happened.

Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)

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post #48

This is great. I see: - Cookie acceptance overlay - Email prompt when switching away from tab - Push notification custom UI prompt - Push notification browser prompt - Subscribe to our newsletter prompt - Ad blocker detected modal - Please subscribe overlay - Continue reading overlay - Ratings prompt - Floating feedback button - "How can I help you?" chat popup - Email prompt when scrolling - Create an account footer…

Could we do something similar but for top level DOM? It's called "reader mode" on most browsers.

Yeah, but it doesn't work for 90% of the sites I try it on. And some sites, especially news sites, deliberately break it.

Seems to me reader mode is a great idea but needs some dynamic behavior so sites can't break it.

Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get that, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about people whose job content is, and who may have had the same job in the 90s, e.g. newspaper journalists. So I'm asking those who don't want to pay for a subscription, but want to use an ad blocker: How does it work? As said, I opted for paying the creator directly, because I hate the ad ecosystem. Seems like a lot of people want to do neither, but still expe…

Many of my favourite blogs are ad-free. The people behindert it just do it with passion and don't expect anything in return. This is in contrast to nrwspapets and magazines, which just pump out clickbait shit while bring full of ads and tracking. Another option is the patreon/twitch model, where people Sonate money to creators.

Yes, the irony I have seen with written content is, with the exception being books, most paid written content is still crap.

Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get that, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about people whose job content is, and who may have had the same job in the 90s, e.g. newspaper journalists. So I'm asking those who don't want to pay for a subscription, but want to use an ad blocker: How does it work? As said, I opted for paying the creator directly, because I hate the ad ecosystem. Seems like a lot of people want to do neither, but still expe…

Lots of us don’t want to pay a dime because it’s like negotiating with terrorists. Do you really expect the people that ruined the web to act nice after the first round of extortion goes well for them? Many paid services still have ads and dark patterns. Those that don’t are waiting for a position of strength (whether that is a market monopoly or just user sunk-cost fallacy to kick in) and then the enshittification w…

> Lots of us don’t want to pay a dime because it’s like negotiating with terrorists.

For a concrete example of the implacable amorality of advertising, consider how cable-TV once offered the promise of subscribing to end the ads, but still ended up showing you ads and demanding a subscription fee anyway. Then the same pattern happened again with online streaming services and Youtube: Every would-be savior keeps getting corrupted by the same darkness.

Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)

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post #34

Sadly the reality for 99% of blogs and news sites nowadays. Makes me wonder whether this is part of the reason why social media sites, YouTube, etc have taken over as a source of information for many people now. Those sites are nightmarish in their own right, but they seem to be less heavy on the annoyances than the average news site now.

Maybe the quantity of the annoyances don't matter (see YouTube's recent anti-ad-blocking shenanigans), but the fact that the annoyances are mostly constant and known (at least, changing at a much slower rate than you view a new slop website) definitely reduces cognitive load.
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