what is considered as the golden era of web browsing? Minimal intrusiveness, but decent images/video/readability?
How I Experience Web Today (2021)
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#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is a whole lot more to this than just whether content creators or publishes should get paid, and whether there should be ad blockers (and whether they get paid). There are people who have been fed up by this because they remembered how the web was like in the late 90s, before social media pushes became the dominant experience. People have formulated ideas around the Small Web ( https://benhoyt.com/writings/the-…
I get that, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about people whose job content is, and who may have had the same job in the 90s, e.g. newspaper journalists. So I'm asking those who don't want to pay for a subscription, but want to use an ad blocker: How does it work? As said, I opted for paying the creator directly, because I hate the ad ecosystem. Seems like a lot of people want to do neither, but still expe…
Many of my favourite blogs are ad-free. The people behindert it just do it with passion and don't expect anything in return. This is in contrast to nrwspapets and magazines, which just pump out clickbait shit while bring full of ads and tracking. Another option is the patreon/twitch model, where people Sonate money to creators.
Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)
#53Here is another funny illustration — https://modem.io/blog/blog-monetization/
This is glorious, and made me think; is there a reverse-adblock addon that would “click” on all ads it finds on a page and would load them silently in the background..?
Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is a whole lot more to this than just whether content creators or publishes should get paid, and whether there should be ad blockers (and whether they get paid). There are people who have been fed up by this because they remembered how the web was like in the late 90s, before social media pushes became the dominant experience. People have formulated ideas around the Small Web ( https://benhoyt.com/writings/the-…
I get that, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about people whose job content is, and who may have had the same job in the 90s, e.g. newspaper journalists. So I'm asking those who don't want to pay for a subscription, but want to use an ad blocker: How does it work? As said, I opted for paying the creator directly, because I hate the ad ecosystem. Seems like a lot of people want to do neither, but still expe…
Lots of us don’t want to pay a dime because it’s like negotiating with terrorists. Do you really expect the people that ruined the web to act nice after the first round of extortion goes well for them? Many paid services still have ads and dark patterns. Those that don’t are waiting for a position of strength (whether that is a market monopoly or just user sunk-cost fallacy to kick in) and then the enshittification will start.
My heart goes out to journalists, etc, but I can’t really help them by paying their bosses because the bosses are not interested in journalism. If you think that paying into rent-seeking protection rackets is any kind of permanent solution you’re probably going to be disappointed.
Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)
#55What I always don't understand is: So you don't want to pay for online content, but you also want to use an ad blocker. In summary, you don't want the author or creator to get paid? Personally, I hate ads, so I pay. I have digital subscriptions to the newspapers I read. I have YouTube Premium (because I spend an ungodly amount of time on that site). But for people who want to do neither... what's your idea?
I'm personally fine with ad blocker blockers. They let me make an informed choice as to whether I want to accept ads with all the bad thing they entail (tracking, potential malware ad/or phishing) in exchange for getting whatever information the website offers. When YouTube Light was still a thing I did subscribe sometimes, but I don't feel as though I get my money's worth out of it with the current pricing so I don't really go there any more.
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#56Fun effect: When finally confronted with the page-leave dialog, I automatically went for the non-default, grey option button – and was kind of surprised that this wasn't the option I wanted. I've a minor criticism: The "No thanks" button should really be "Remind me later" and possibly greyed out, since any negative wording is allegedly bad UX and users must be protected from any blunt denials in any options. "Maybe l…
> "Maybe later" is also acceptable and even empowering
You've got a fulfilling career in product management ahead of you!
Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)
#57This is great. I see: - Cookie acceptance overlay - Email prompt when switching away from tab - Push notification custom UI prompt - Push notification browser prompt - Subscribe to our newsletter prompt - Ad blocker detected modal - Please subscribe overlay - Continue reading overlay - Ratings prompt - Floating feedback button - "How can I help you?" chat popup - Email prompt when scrolling - Create an account footer…
Could we do something similar but for top level DOM?
Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)
#58Here is another funny illustration — https://modem.io/blog/blog-monetization/
Funniest (and most accurate) thing I've seen on the web in a while. Thanks for posting!
Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)
#59What I always don't understand is: So you don't want to pay for online content, but you also want to use an ad blocker. In summary, you don't want the author or creator to get paid? Personally, I hate ads, so I pay. I have digital subscriptions to the newspapers I read. I have YouTube Premium (because I spend an ungodly amount of time on that site). But for people who want to do neither... what's your idea?
So, what are my ideas? - static banners (non blinking, no transitions, esp. no vertical transitions that are designed to force you to lose focus – I've come for the content, not the ads) - no tracking that exceeds maybe, if you have seen the campaign already. Preferably hosted by the website (who is responsible?). - also, no targeting. Ads once were supposed to be consumer information. Public information is meant to…
> ads should be more expensive for the advertising party.
Sorry, my reading comprehension is failing me. If Bob pays Google to put an ad on Alice's website, is Bob the advertising party? Because if so, that would disadvantage small companies and harm the market by making it harder for newcomers to be competitive. If in our hypothetical situation Google is the advertising party that's good and well, though I don't know how we'd get that done.
Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)
#60Here is another funny illustration — https://modem.io/blog/blog-monetization/
This is glorious, and made me think; is there a reverse-adblock addon that would “click” on all ads it finds on a page and would load them silently in the background..?
There’s https://adnauseam.io/ (posted to HN a few times https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37230898 )