'cept it's not today is it. It's (2021)
How I Experience Web Today (2021)
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#42I'd say "it's funny because it's true", but this goes all the way into "too true to be funny"!
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#43What I always don't understand is: So you don't want to pay for online content, but you also want to use an ad blocker. In summary, you don't want the author or creator to get paid? Personally, I hate ads, so I pay. I have digital subscriptions to the newspapers I read. I have YouTube Premium (because I spend an ungodly amount of time on that site). But for people who want to do neither... what's your idea?
There is a whole lot more to this than just whether content creators or publishes should get paid, and whether there should be ad blockers (and whether they get paid). There are people who have been fed up by this because they remembered how the web was like in the late 90s, before social media pushes became the dominant experience. People have formulated ideas around the Small Web ( https://benhoyt.com/writings/the-…
I get that, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about people whose job content is, and who may have had the same job in the 90s, e.g. newspaper journalists.
So I'm asking those who don't want to pay for a subscription, but want to use an ad blocker: How does it work?
As said, I opted for paying the creator directly, because I hate the ad ecosystem. Seems like a lot of people want to do neither, but still expect their content to magically exist.
Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)
#44What I always don't understand is: So you don't want to pay for online content, but you also want to use an ad blocker. In summary, you don't want the author or creator to get paid? Personally, I hate ads, so I pay. I have digital subscriptions to the newspapers I read. I have YouTube Premium (because I spend an ungodly amount of time on that site). But for people who want to do neither... what's your idea?
So, what are my ideas?
- static banners (non blinking, no transitions, esp. no vertical transitions that are designed to force you to lose focus – I've come for the content, not the ads)
- no tracking that exceeds maybe, if you have seen the campaign already. Preferably hosted by the website (who is responsible?).
- also, no targeting. Ads once were supposed to be consumer information. Public information is meant to be public, so I would enjoy leaning about what is out there (in the big world). Not just being reminded of what I bought last month, over and over again. Consumer products are part of (ephemeral) culture and I'd like to be part of it. (Reminder: you can always select/target by content and context, not just per user profile. This is technically feasible, as demonstrated by earlier versions of the Web.)
(This is also valid for recommendation and content presentation algorithms of all kind: I generally feel like desperately gasping for air, while being strangled by algorithms that only allow for an ever narrower bandwidth of the ever same. – E.g., is it really true that there are just three videos uploaded to YouTube per week? How do they make a profit? So you say, there are millions? How I'm not going to see them? Even a text search is littered by out of context reminders of the ever same…)
– moreover, ads should be more expensive for the advertising party. There should be less in total and the revenue for content providers should be greater (remember the thriving blog scene, we once had, when bloggers could make a living?)
(In other words, role it back to the early 2000s and I'm fine with that. Essentially, before Google ads went on steroids.)
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#45Cookie banners… the most silly idea made by non technical people mandated upon technical people. Does anyone remember P3P? If that was pushed and managed better it would have solved the entire problem.
Cookie banners were not mandated. That was malicious compliance.
That I keep seeing this bullshit repeated it tells me that "technical people" are not as smart as they think they are.
Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)
#46'cept it's not today is it. It's (2021)
Well, technically it's still the case today
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#47The least accurate part of this is that the elements are all too quick to respond vs. IRL where every action takes multiple seconds to load
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#48This is great. I see:
- Cookie acceptance overlay
- Email prompt when switching away from tab
- Push notification custom UI prompt
- Push notification browser prompt
- Subscribe to our newsletter prompt
- Ad blocker detected modal
- Please subscribe overlay
- Continue reading overlay
- Ratings prompt
- Floating feedback button
- "How can I help you?" chat popup
- Email prompt when scrolling
- Create an account footer
- Interstitial ads
- Social media share buttons
- Click to play video overlay (one that isn't available in your country)
- Tab closing prompt
Thinking about this problem technically, most of these obscenities are vying for top level. In the early days, browsers could detect when a popup was trying to launch and block them. Could we do something similar but for top level DOM?
Alternately, could a browser have a quiet mode? No prompts, banners, overlays, etc.
Just thinking out loud.
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#49It's funny because working with DNS-level blocking + cookie consent + ad blocker the sequence is perfectly fine, I had to go back to comments to understand what I was supposed to see.
Of course, that is besides the point, but I am surprised not everyone here has a setup like this.
Re: How I Experience Web Today (2021)
#50Here is another funny illustration — https://modem.io/blog/blog-monetization/
The CSS on that page is impressive!