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The quiet art of attention
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#194Stoicism explores these ideas. One of the basic premises is that all external events are out of our control and to focus on what is, basically what is in our mind and our actions. Then we should try to discipline our ideas around virtues which are always good instead of outcomes and externals. That summary doesn't do it justice, if interested in exploring further. There are some good books on amazon or check out dail…
Buddhism explores these ideas too. For a modern approach to this mindset I highly recommend "Seeing That Frees" by Rob Burbea. https://app.thestorygraph.com/books/08772fe1-564c-4a95-9a5d-...
Burbea has many talks as well, youtube or on other podcast platforms. Hours and hours and hours of talks that are all so helpful on understanding in the word form.
Channel of his talks: https://www.youtube.com/@boubabuddha
I find this playlist great as a starting point if you want to get into it, and one that I can go back to: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLO6hhaAzLmioyOxMi8ELP...
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#196If you want to truly slow time down and live in the moment exercise incredibly hard. Something like a grueling CrossFit workout can make it feel like ten minutes never took so long. Time slows down when each second is exhausting mental and physical anguish to keep your legs pedaling on an assault bike. I love it!
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I'm speaking for myself (ADHD) and anecdotal experience from people in my life with these conditions (clinical depression, bipolar disorder, ADHD). I don't claim to speak for anyone. Now you say that. But you made a very clear, absolute statement that these people “cannot have full control of their minds without medical intervention”. And everyone’s lived experience is eventually respected with some back and forth…
As someone with severe, often debilitating ADHD, I understand not wanting to depend on medication. It was forced upon me under threat of punishment as a child and heavily exacerbated my OCD and tic syndrome, which led to further punishment anyway. Learning to be okay with medication has taken a long time. But the last couple decades of research have made a few things clear. Importantly, ADHD has been shown to be a ge…
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#198Nice article, currently reading 'The power of now' by Eckhart Tolle which has essentially the same message, but with more depth and spirituality. Never considered myself spiritual up until now, as life definitely seems easier following the present path. Anybody with tips or exchanges with regards to Stoicism or other fields such as Bhuddism? I have the feeling it also has these concepts but I am very new with all thi…
It has a bit of pop culture sheen to it presently but the content is still quality.
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#199I don't know if it's just me, but it feels like a very deliberate choice that this wasn't written in the easy-to-comprehend, easy-to-grasp style that's so prevalent online. It's harder. It requires, to some degree, even slightly, conscious effort to parse. It feels like the perfect union of form and content, at least given the constraints of it being online, which by its very nature encourages distractions, flitting…
I mean, this mind stuff doesn't really work if you're mentally ill, chronically stressed, worried about work/bills/relationships, chronically ill, stressed from caring for children/elderly, stressed from war/politics, oppressed, etc and I say that as a two decades long Buddhist practitioner and meditator.
All this wavey-gravy stuff doesn't work without some type of moral framework. When he says "strength" what exactly does he mean? When he says 'life is meant to be this way' how can he possibly defend what life is meant to be? This is just a lot of empty nothings dressed up as important.
What we do know is that we're animals evoloved from other animals that until very recently lived in smaller tribal groups or nomadic settlements, where our society saw innate value in us, had an extended family taking care of us, etc. Our modern life is the opposite of that. We're sort of shoved into the capitalist system, told to figure out a career and often after traumatizing 13+ years of schooling, then thrown into the job market, dealing with the pain of full time work if we can even get a steady good job which a lot of people don't, dealing with a system not invested in us but would love to get rid of us especially if we're costly, different, queer, minority, old, 'not competitive', not a good 'culture fit', neurodivergent, etc.
So what do these essays really do? Not much. You will never revisit it. You will never bother because why? It doesnt fit your ethics or philosophy. Its empty pablum. Now if you built out values and said, "Productivity and business norms, as we know it, is actually bad and that's the cause of much of this pain, and we should be building frameworks, businesses, governments, and social norms to encourage downtime, rest, meditation-like activities, etc." Then yes, go for it, but be warned this will take you down a path where you'll be attacked for it for being anti-capitalist or socialist or whatever. Your friends, relatives, coworkers, etc you saw on your side will fight you. Your political party will label you a dangerous radical. So instead we get "just try to think like a zen buddhist to finish your TPS reports," junk like this, that very much ignores the elephant in the room. The world is on fire, its perfectly normal to feel stressed at that. Your stress is often valid and comes from a valid place.
So like you said, its written in this 'spiritual master' kind of way to give it gravitas it doesn't deserve, to make it seems more important than it is, and to fool people into thinking they're the problem and their lack of "mind mastery" is the problem, instead of the system that causes all this pain. Why are you so worried, those are valid worries! Why do you rush through things? You're not given enough time! Why are you dealing with trauma and burnout? Because that's what our system leads to, especially for skill workers and other types of workers weighed heavily on productivity.
"Mind mastery," is the new 'stiff upper lip' or 'skill issue' or 'quit complaining.' That is to say, its the new con to keep the status quo working as-is to benefit the few. You should be complaining and advocating for change that allows you more downtime, rest, "detigering" yourself, and such so that "mind mastery" isn't this ridiculous task but something that can start coming easier for us because we are then given the resources, time, cultural norms, and buy-in to achieve it. Look at how many retired people get into things like time in nature, slow burn experiences, writing novels, making art, meditation, contemplation, spirituality, a slow lifestyle, etc when before they are rushed and stressed 24/7. When we give people room, they will naturally gravitate towards stuff like this. We should be giving more room to the workers who haven't retired because they want this too and they won't get it via flowery essays, but via downtown, less work hours, better workplaces, better benefits, more social buy-in, more regulation that benefit the working class, valuing low stress and slower lifestyles, investment in mental health resources, medicine access for all, longer vacations, guaranteed long maternity/paternity, etc.
If you're denied many of these thing all the 'mind mastery' junk in the world doesn't work. You'll just float between guys like this, books from Buddhists, books from Stoics, Sun Tzu, Toaism, New Age, secular humanism, theraputic models, various psychiatric drugs, etc and none of it will really work because the system isn't giving you the space and resources to actually become a "mind master" or whatever you want to call it. In fact, being a "mind master" may be a fool's errand, at least past a certain level of practicing meditation. Sad things are supposed to make us sad, hard things should stress us, vulnerable things should be said and respected for being said, etc. Being "above it all with no feeling" is a ridiculous maladaption to a harmful system.
Yes, meditation and mindfulness are nice but they're a bandaid, and a lot of people, I'd say 99% of us, don't need bandaids we need surgery, that is to say, the system is injuring us faster than we can heal and at that point, the path to actual healing, having a relaxed mind, etc is systemic change, not these little essays that say very little, if anything, of substance. This is why people float from new age stuff and self-help stuff and back and forth and back and forth with new 'gurus' and 'truth tellers' and such discovered and discarded their whole lives and never get relief. This stuff doesn't work because their boats are filling with water faster than they can empty it. No flowery prose changes that reality.
So if your skeptical meter is going off, this is probably why, and you're valid to question these narratives and their presentation.
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#200In regard to watching the mind, one thing I’ve observed is a little strange, and I was hoping to get other’s experiences. I like to watch the movement of my attention. Nothing abstract, just to observe where attention is aimed - it takes a mere 30 seconds of watching. What I’ve noticed, is it moves around, seemingly without my input, and lacking any conscious intent (a concept the blog post makes a point to reclaim).…