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Re: Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

#81
post #69

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What? Is this Reddit now?

So I hold an opinion and do have substantial intellectual abilities. Does that mean I must be erudite in every post? <-- rhetorical answer because the answer is an assumed "No."

> Does that mean I must be erudite in every post?

No, you take your own decisions, you don't have to give knowledgeable answers. But it is always a good thing to word your answer while taking in respect the nature of forum you are posting it to.

Re: Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

#82
Can any attorneys out there explain how altering computing devices to redirect and intercept email is not a criminal act when done without the knowledge or consent of the owner?

If any of us pulled the same stunt, even if authorized to access the system for other reasons, would we not be subject to prosecution? Hopefully, the same will happen to FB.

In addition to the Federal communications and cybercrime statutes, there is California Penal Code 502:

(c) Except as provided in subdivision (h), any person who commits any of the following acts is guilty of a public offense: (1) Knowingly accesses and without permission alters, damages, deletes, destroys, or otherwise uses any data, computer, computer system, or computer network in order to either (A) devise or execute any scheme or artifice to defraud, deceive, or extort, or (B) wrongfully control or obtain money, property, or data. ... (4) Knowingly accesses and without permission adds, alters, damages, deletes, or destroys any data, computer software, or computer programs which reside or exist internal or external to a computer, computer system, or computer network. (5) Knowingly and without permission disrupts or causes the disruption of computer services or denies or causes the denial of computer services to an authorized user of a computer, computer system, or computer network. ... etc.

It remains to be seen if there is a prosecutor with the backbone to go after this.

Re: Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

#83
post #4

Well, this is my gripe with their "go fast and break things" mantra. It works as long as you have such a highly desirable product that your users just don't care if you're doing everything right. (Or maybe you're in a non-mission-critical business, or better yet, your customers are a bunch of kids!) I'm all for going fast and sincerely believe in "A sense of urgency", but Facebook is really lucky they're not serving…

Facebook is serving shareholders now. I'm hoping there are some serious repercussions internally at FB for this, because as a shareholder, I'm pissed they messed this up because the user base is upset and will continue to stop trusting Facebook. How's the stock supposed to get back to 38 now?

Your mistake was buying into FB. Honestly it will take a major acquisition to reach 38.

Re: Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

#85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to be clear, that quote is from Emperor Palpatine (Star Wars), not really Zuckerberg

They're two separate people?

Always two there are, no more, no less: a master and an apprentice.

Re: Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

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Why would anyone on God's green earth sync their Address book to facebook!?! It's a social network for crying out loud, not a work place! WT..!! This is what happen's when you mix work and pleasure ha ha, it's a stupid kid's playground to post stupid thing's and do nothing all day! I just can't get past it, why would anyone sync their address book to FB!? ha ha ha

Because most of my social contacts are on Facebook? And by keeping my address book synced, I don't have to keep track of every time everyone gets a new phone number or email address.

Re: Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

#87
post #45

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I think the difference here is that everything they've done before now has been more or less bounded by my own actions. If they screw my privacy, it's my own damned fault for posting sensitive stuff to their site. Hell, even if they track me around the web, I should've been more careful about blocking their cookies. But this is another ballgame. What they've done here is effectively hijack a completely unrelated and…

I don't mean to defend them because this move is stupid, but to help you get this back in control: you can go you your about page and set the @facebook email to be hidden. I had done this in the past and they didn't touch it.

Does this fix any device synchronization problems, where someone you know had their record of your e-mail address changed to the @facebook one automatically?

It doesn't seem to be clear, as I write this, exactly what is going on there and how much is completely automatic/without consent vs. how much was "expected" behaviour. It's pretty clear that a lot of people aren't happy about it regardless, though. Even if some contact originally got onto your phone via integration with a third party service, that could have been years ago. If you weren't aware that the contact was only remaining there/unmodified because the third party chose to leave it that way, it's understandable that you might be upset if that changed without warning after a long time.

Re: Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

#88
post #4

Well, this is my gripe with their "go fast and break things" mantra. It works as long as you have such a highly desirable product that your users just don't care if you're doing everything right. (Or maybe you're in a non-mission-critical business, or better yet, your customers are a bunch of kids!) I'm all for going fast and sincerely believe in "A sense of urgency", but Facebook is really lucky they're not serving…

Facebook is serving shareholders now. I'm hoping there are some serious repercussions internally at FB for this, because as a shareholder, I'm pissed they messed this up because the user base is upset and will continue to stop trusting Facebook. How's the stock supposed to get back to 38 now?

How's the stock supposed to get back to 38 now?

Sorry to be cynical, but: it was never supposed to be at 38 in the first place. Facebook isn't worth anything close to its nominal market cap, it's just the latest very high profile pyramid scheme, or rather it would have been if they hadn't gone in so absurdly high with the IPO that even the heavyweight investors interested in risky tech stocks have mostly run away.

Re: Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

#89

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http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1998-12-02/

December 2nd, 1998? I'm curious how you had that handy. Have you always liked this comic and finally found a relevant place for it? Was it something you vague remembered and Googled it?

Dilbert has full text search. Remember part of any phrase from a relevant comic, and you can find it in short order. Not sure how the grand-parent poster found it of course.

Re: Facebook e-mail mess: Address books altered, e-mail lost

#90
post #4

Well, this is my gripe with their "go fast and break things" mantra. It works as long as you have such a highly desirable product that your users just don't care if you're doing everything right. (Or maybe you're in a non-mission-critical business, or better yet, your customers are a bunch of kids!) I'm all for going fast and sincerely believe in "A sense of urgency", but Facebook is really lucky they're not serving…

Facebook is serving shareholders now. I'm hoping there are some serious repercussions internally at FB for this, because as a shareholder, I'm pissed they messed this up because the user base is upset and will continue to stop trusting Facebook. How's the stock supposed to get back to 38 now?

If you valued Apple like Facebook was at 38 Apple would be worth over 2 trillion dollars. Also keep in mind Apple is faster growing than Facebook in terms of actually making money.

Yeah, sure there is some potential but perhaps not that much. Everyone does scream its got the same trajectory as Google, but the thing is they are already slowing down.

If the stock hits 38 again and Facebook has not figured out a marvelous new way to make a lot more money, then its all just speculation and gambling.

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