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Re: The ACF plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress.org

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Post by mirzap »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #10

Calling it right now: If WP Engine is reading, fork WordPress now. Call it FreshPress. Put $25M into it, team up with other hosts, abandon the editor everyone hates, and relicense it to GPLv3 so Matt can’t have any of it. (Note that WordPress’s license specifically says GPLv2 or later.) Maybe support Composer like sane modern PHP projects. Maybe put the most important plugins like Woo into core and make it an all-in-…

I agree. This is the best move right now. WordPress needed modernization anyway

Re: The ACF plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress.org

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Post by varun_chopra »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #29
NetOpWibby wrote: post #5

Matt has been busy being a tool https://bullenweg.com/ I feel for everyone that uses Wordpress.

Why on earth is Matt’s nosebleed on this? Making fun of peoples medical issues is tasteless, and makes me wonder about the motivation behind the rest of the page.

Agreed. For context, Matt posted the following on the original video:

> Around 20 minutes in, my nose started bleeding, which sometimes happens when I travel too much. Prior to this interview, I was on 30+ hour flights returning from Durban, where I was on safari, to Houston. I'm sorry for not noticing it happening; it's very embarrassing.

Re: The ACF plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress.org

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Post by bullenweg »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #29
NetOpWibby wrote: post #5

Matt has been busy being a tool https://bullenweg.com/ I feel for everyone that uses Wordpress.

Why on earth is Matt’s nosebleed on this? Making fun of peoples medical issues is tasteless, and makes me wonder about the motivation behind the rest of the page.

The inclusion of the nosebleed is not to make fun of Matt, it is to highlight something relevant to the medical issues that people have speculated about. The motivation is to bring to light Matt's wide-ranging exploits in one place, given it is abnormal for someone involved in high-profile litigation to spend their time arguing on Hacker News, Reddit, Twitter and live streams.

Re: The ACF plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress.org

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Post by partiallypro »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #10

Calling it right now: If WP Engine is reading, fork WordPress now. Call it FreshPress. Put $25M into it, team up with other hosts, abandon the editor everyone hates, and relicense it to GPLv3 so Matt can’t have any of it. (Note that WordPress’s license specifically says GPLv2 or later.) Maybe support Composer like sane modern PHP projects. Maybe put the most important plugins like Woo into core and make it an all-in-…

This is all good, but I think packaging Woo into core is not a good idea. WordPress is so large; I don't know how the plugin community will react to a fork. It is going to cause a lot of problems.

Re: The ACF plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress.org

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Post by getcrunk »

A lot of the comments seem to call out Matt (right or wrong). But that’s the easy thing to do.

No one dares address the systemic issue of for profit corporations exploitatively (ab)using open source software.

There is a social contract that people should contribute back, and while it’s largely unenforceable, as it should be, when it’s happening on a systemic level something has to be done. And we are all complicit if we don’t at least say that much and spare some good will towards the guy actively in that fight at least superficially

Re: The ACF plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress.org

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

getcrunk wrote: post #35

A lot of the comments seem to call out Matt (right or wrong). But that’s the easy thing to do. No one dares address the systemic issue of for profit corporations exploitatively (ab)using open source software. There is a social contract that people should contribute back, and while it’s largely unenforceable, as it should be, when it’s happening on a systemic level something has to be done. And we are all complicit if…

I’m with DHH. The license is the license. The moment there’s unwritten obligations, the movement will implode - simply because unwritten obligations are always up to interpretation. Don’t like the status quo? Use a different license. This is especially true of WordPress, considering it’s an unlicensed fork of an earlier project itself.

Re: The ACF plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress.org

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Post by gloflo »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #10

Calling it right now: If WP Engine is reading, fork WordPress now. Call it FreshPress. Put $25M into it, team up with other hosts, abandon the editor everyone hates, and relicense it to GPLv3 so Matt can’t have any of it. (Note that WordPress’s license specifically says GPLv2 or later.) Maybe support Composer like sane modern PHP projects. Maybe put the most important plugins like Woo into core and make it an all-in-…

What is the significance of going from GPL v2 to v3 here?

Re: The ACF plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress.org

#38

Post by sangnoir »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #10

Calling it right now: If WP Engine is reading, fork WordPress now. Call it FreshPress. Put $25M into it, team up with other hosts, abandon the editor everyone hates, and relicense it to GPLv3 so Matt can’t have any of it. (Note that WordPress’s license specifically says GPLv2 or later.) Maybe support Composer like sane modern PHP projects. Maybe put the most important plugins like Woo into core and make it an all-in-…

> Put $25M into it...then he’ll realize his bluff has been called

I don't think Matt will be too displeased with WPEngine investing $25 million into a fork. He may even feel vindicated.

Re: The ACF plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress.org

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Post by gjsman-1000 »

sangnoir wrote: post #38
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #10

Calling it right now: If WP Engine is reading, fork WordPress now. Call it FreshPress. Put $25M into it, team up with other hosts, abandon the editor everyone hates, and relicense it to GPLv3 so Matt can’t have any of it. (Note that WordPress’s license specifically says GPLv2 or later.) Maybe support Composer like sane modern PHP projects. Maybe put the most important plugins like Woo into core and make it an all-in-…

> Put $25M into it...then he’ll realize his bluff has been called I don't think Matt will be too displeased with WPEngine investing $25 million into a fork. He may even feel vindicated.

Perhaps; but WP Engine can argue from necessity following Matt’s actions, as well as just saying: After what Matt has done, who gives a darn what he thinks?

Re: The ACF plugin on the WordPress directory has been taken over by WordPress.org

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Post by ValentineC »

varun_chopra wrote: post #32
LeoPanthera wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why on earth is Matt’s nosebleed on this? Making fun of peoples medical issues is tasteless, and makes me wonder about the motivation behind the rest of the page.

Agreed. For context, Matt posted the following on the original video: > Around 20 minutes in, my nose started bleeding, which sometimes happens when I travel too much. Prior to this interview, I was on 30+ hour flights returning from Durban, where I was on safari, to Houston. I'm sorry for not noticing it happening; it's very embarrassing.

Matt gave his reply on the nosebleed 6 hours ago.

It was first brought up in r/Wordpress 17 hours ago.

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