Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant shift from road to rail
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Re: Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant shift from road to rail
#2Didn’t this start as unlimited anywhere for 9 euros no strings attached?
I LOVE the German transit system (although Denmark wins in cleanliness). However, Germany is a bit predatory with this new system. You can ONLY purchase this ticket as a subscription model. If you’re a tourist, you must cancel before the 10th of the month or you get auto rebilled.
Additionally, there are so many apps that resell the ticket as some white label system, so it was very confusing to purchase (you cannot buy them at the machines).
The price hike is the wrong direction here if we are reducing that much time on the road. Kudos though for the great rail systems. The USA has a lot to learn here and it’s baffling how terrible it is here. I doubt I’d ever need a car in Germany given the rail system was much more convenient. In the USA I spend 10-15 mins trying to park any time I go anywhere
Re: Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant shift from road to rail
#3As someone that avoids the german rail at all costs I applaud this move, the freer the roads and airports are for me, the better.
Re: Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant shift from road to rail
#4Didn’t this start as unlimited anywhere for 9 euros no strings attached? I LOVE the German transit system (although Denmark wins in cleanliness). However, Germany is a bit predatory with this new system. You can ONLY purchase this ticket as a subscription model. If you’re a tourist, you must cancel before the 10th of the month or you get auto rebilled. Additionally, there are so many apps that resell the ticket as so…
It started with 9€, is 49€ now, and will be 58€ starting 2025.
You can buy for a single month when booking through the right company. "mo.pal" is a good one, for example. However, I agree that it is a bit predatory.
Re: Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant shift from road to rail
#5Except this only helped the folks living close to big train station hubs, across the country there are plenty of places where the car is the only viable option.
Re: Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant shift from road to rail
#6As someone that avoids the german rail at all costs I applaud this move, the freer the roads and airports are for me, the better.
Exactly. I don't understand why most car owners are so opposed to public transport.
Re: Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant shift from road to rail
#7Didn’t this start as unlimited anywhere for 9 euros no strings attached? I LOVE the German transit system (although Denmark wins in cleanliness). However, Germany is a bit predatory with this new system. You can ONLY purchase this ticket as a subscription model. If you’re a tourist, you must cancel before the 10th of the month or you get auto rebilled. Additionally, there are so many apps that resell the ticket as so…
Germany is smaller than California. The United States is very, very large place, mostly unpopulated. It’s hard to apply whatever Germany, a small, densely populated country does to the US, which is largely empty land.
Re: Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant shift from road to rail
#8As someone that avoids the german rail at all costs I applaud this move, the freer the roads and airports are for me, the better.
Exactly. I don't understand why most car owners are so opposed to public transport.
the same reason omnivores are sometimes highly critical of veg*ns: there's a moral claim going on, so their identity/ moral standing is threatened.
Re: Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant shift from road to rail
#9Didn’t this start as unlimited anywhere for 9 euros no strings attached? I LOVE the German transit system (although Denmark wins in cleanliness). However, Germany is a bit predatory with this new system. You can ONLY purchase this ticket as a subscription model. If you’re a tourist, you must cancel before the 10th of the month or you get auto rebilled. Additionally, there are so many apps that resell the ticket as so…
I don't have the details, but every single time I have heard the mention of Deutsche Bahn in the last few years it has been accompanied by comments of how broken it has become, with constant delays and cancellations, to the point where for many people it is no longer a viable option for commute or for anything where you cannot risk to be up to several hours late.
I guess it's all relative. If you come to rely on an excellent and omnipresent rail service for many years as a society, the impacts are quite big when it stops working well. If the service itself is built assuming reliability, where transferring between trains is common, then issues can get substantially amplified if that choreography gets somewhat disrupted.
Re: Germany's 49-euro ticket resulted in significant shift from road to rail
#10Except this only helped the folks living close to big train station hubs, across the country there are plenty of places where the car is the only viable option.
Well, no, it's primarily about regional travel, so it clearly helps folks near to smaller stations.
Plus: your point, caller? Investing in roads only helps folks with cars. There are plenty of people for whom public transport is the only option.