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Nobel Peace Prize for 2024 awarded to Nihon Hidankyo

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Re: Nobel Peace Prize for 2024 awarded to Nihon Hidankyo

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Post by anigbrowl »

cynicalpeace wrote: post #306
anigbrowl wrote: post #282

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you please stop with these tacky rhetorical moves, it's inimical to good conversation.

It was a genuine question. When you start getting attacked personally, you know whoever's attacking you is losing the argument.

I don't believe you. Virtually every contribution you've made in this thread is manipulative, including this one. Making specific but evidence-free allegations and then leaning on aphorisms to keep the argument going is an obvious and unfortunately common pattern in your social activity here.

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Post by artursapek »

Ylpertnodi wrote: post #113
artursapek wrote: post #71

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Genuinely interested: if Trump talking nukes is 'one of the reasons (for liking him), what are the others, and do they include his talking about soldiers and generals?

He wants a secure border, and to end the wars in the east. You don't support those things?

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Post by EnigmaFlare »

timeon wrote: post #99
squigz wrote: post #65

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I'd like to think of myself as a rational person, yet I worry about it. Because it's not just a matter of math; the effects of a billion people dying at once would be far more detrimental than the deaths from cancer over a century. (One might think this line of reasoning that some people apply is a coping mechanism to ignore the reality, but that might be a different conversation)

But it is not just about coping. We as society, can make policies to decrease chance of getting a cancer and decrease traffic deaths. We just chose not to out of convenience and profit.

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Post by notthemessiah »

MisterBastahrd wrote: post #181
mppm wrote: post #17

This is indeed a very timely award. I sometimes feel like the world has forgotten that nuclear weapons still exist and are still on hair-trigger alert to obliterate major cities. Maybe the end of atmospheric testing and the success of (now defunct) weapons reduction treaties has blunted public perception to the ongoing threat that they represent, and to the need to tread carefully where nuclear powers are involved.

The entire purpose of nuclear armaments is to make certain wars too nasty to fathom engaging in. If their organization didn't exist at all, we'd still have exactly the same number of nuclear war casualties since the 1940s.

The net result of this has enabled nuclear powers to engage in asymmetric wars against countries that don't have nukes, or to engage in proxy wars between nuclear superpowers. Meanwhile, we heave come perilously close to nuclear armageddon, with Stanislav Petrov standing in the way.

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Post by Melatonic »

kaon_ wrote: post #29

At home I have a book telling stories of Dutch WW2 survivors still living today. One of them was an eye witness account of the Hiroshima bomb. He was a POW and worked in a quarry or mine on the outskirts of town. He saw a single plane fly over. A bomb dropped with a parachute attached. Moments later he was flung to the back of the quarry and the city was gone. I would never have guessed there were eyewitnesses like t…

Also POW Dutch grandfather here. He was in a giant concrete factory machining parts for airplanes. Bomb destroyed the whole city but the factory (being thick concrete) somewhat shielded the people inside. He had scars on his legs from pieces of a door blasting through the factory

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Post by justinclift »

thrownawaysz wrote: post #33
thaumasiotes wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might want to consider a little more carefully before putting money down. There is no economics Nobel Prize.

"Although not one of the five Nobel Prizes established by Alfred Nobel's will in 1895, it is commonly referred to as the Nobel Prize in Economics, and is administered and referred to along with the Nobel Prizes by the Nobel Foundation. Winners of the Prize in Economic Sciences are chosen in a similar manner as and announced alongside the Nobel Prize recipients, and receive the Prize in Economic Sciences at the Nobel…

Where's that from?

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Post by Foreignborn »

melasadra wrote: post #69

As some other commenters have pointed out: It is lamentable that the focus is almost always on the atomic bombing itself instead of why it came to that point at all. Many Asian countries feel scant sympathy toward Japan. From Indonesia to Malaysia to the Philipipines or even worse and for much longer, in Korea and China. In each of these countries the Japanese perpetrated massacre, forced labour, gang rape and forced…

You can separate one group of innocents killed horrifically from other innocents killed horrifically.

No one goes around expecting New York City to attone for the events that led up to 9/11.

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Post by tredre3 »

cynicalpeace wrote: post #58

Phenomenal choice. While 80 years is nice- it's a blip on the timescale of history. I personally think we're a button click away from going back to the stone age. I know others will disagree, but it's not something you wanna take a gamble on. I think it's one of the reasons we have to be self sustaining on other heavenly bodies. And also why wars or proxy wars between nuclear powers are extremely foolish and should b…

> I think it's one of the reasons we have to be self sustaining on other heavenly bodies.

But who will inhabit those other bodies? Humans? The same species that destroyed earth in your scenario? What makes you think that living on Mars would suddenly make everybody peaceful and enlightened?

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Post by kortilla »

palata wrote: post #270
kortilla wrote: post #232

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Of course it’s an alternative. A self sustaining colony could be the only thing that survives a massive pandemic.

Well if it was possible, it would be an alternative. But it's not, period. Counting on it happening in your life time is simply preposterous. But you know what might collapse during your lifetime? Our civilization. Pretty likely.

> But it's not, period.

Said every dipshit Luddite 50 years ago about basically everything we enjoy on a day to day basis.

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Post by hollerith »

kortilla wrote: post #339
palata wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well if it was possible, it would be an alternative. But it's not, period. Counting on it happening in your life time is simply preposterous. But you know what might collapse during your lifetime? Our civilization. Pretty likely.

> But it's not, period. Said every dipshit Luddite 50 years ago about basically everything we enjoy on a day to day basis.

You mean 50 years ago when many were proclaiming that there would be whole cities in space by now? You mean that 50 years ago?

(Even more were proclaiming it 70 years ago.)

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