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"Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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Post by beached_whale »

varun_ch wrote: post #15
Kelteseth wrote: post #2

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/

Chrome to Firefox is a relatively easy switch, especially for those that don’t depend on Google sync. The main sources of friction for me were the lack of a good profile switching UI (solved with a browser extension that mimics the Chrome menu), and weird security requirements for homemade extensions (IIRC if you want to have the extension persist after restarting Firefox, you need to sign the extension, which is a p…

One feature that is missing, removed, from Firefox is PWA's/running sites as apps. This is super handy for low trust apps

Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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Post by foxandmouse »

Kelteseth wrote: post #2

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/

I love Mozilla, but I’m concerned about its future. Since 80% of its income reportedly comes from the Google search deal, do they have a plan to replace it after the recent ruling? And can they maintain their current level of autonomy while doing so?

Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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Post by jokoon »

emaro wrote: post #12

For people that have somehow missed the story, manifest v3 removed support for certain powerful network apis, severly limiting ad-blockers capabilities. uBlock Origin will not work anymore without manifest v2 (there's a v3 compatible lite version of uBlock Origin).

I saw there is a manifest v3 ublock lite.

I don't understand why and how it would be less capable, and so far I have not read the details of how/why.

So far, it's just rumors to me.

I will keep using firefox anyway, but honestly I am still waiting for a clearer explanation.

Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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Post by fpoling »

tyingq wrote: post #14
blakesterz wrote: post #7

Has anyone been using the v3 compatible version of uBlock Origin? Have you noticed much of a difference? From what I read there isn't supposed to be much of a difference?

Static list of uris versus live heuristics. So "much of a difference" depends a lot on what you browse. If your browsing is covered by the static list, yes...there's little difference. Also, keep in mind advertisers are not unaware of all this movement. You don't think they'll try new tactics once they know everyone using chrome is now hobbled to solely static lists? That cloaking (or other approaches) won't then bec…

A lot of other ad blockers use static lists for years. The fact that they work tells that ad industry does not see the blockers as a problem that needs to be dealt with. It can also be that so far the increased cost of development of ads that are immune to simple static lists is not worth it.

Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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Post by drivebycomment »

kccqzy wrote: post #9
blakesterz wrote: post #7

Has anyone been using the v3 compatible version of uBlock Origin? Have you noticed much of a difference? From what I read there isn't supposed to be much of a difference?

I have been using the Firefox version of it for more than a year by now, basically as soon as it came out. I commented on HN that I was going to do it: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37219071 There's no difference whatsoever. And it's not surprising because on my iOS device I've been using similarly architected content blockers since 2015. There's no issue with declarative ad blocking. Of course this differs wi…

Anyone jumping up and down about MV3 while using Mac or iOS are hypocrites, since MV3 is essentially doing the same thing Safari did years ago, finally matching the security and the privacy in that regard. The reduction in adblocking is so miniscule in aggregate - since declarative approach will always cover all the major advertisers - that it's not even a meaningful "trade-off".

Re: "Begin disabling installed extensions still using Manifest V2 in Chrome stable"

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Post by prettymuchnoone »

anovick wrote: post #21
Kelteseth wrote: post #2

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/

Main reason I'm still using Chrome and can't switch to Firefox: https://connect.mozilla.org/t5/ideas/feature-suggestion-fire...

hm i'll post this in the thread over there later but i'm pretty sure ff has that?

https://imgur.com/a/gXrsBq3

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