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Re: WordPress Alternatives

#102

That list isn't deep enough. These are CMS alternatives, not WordPress alternatives. I need a WordPress alternative to/with the following requirements: - self-hostable - opensource core (paid plugins are not a problem) - so it can be installed and intensively tested without shelling too much money just for R&D - has ACF equivalent - has a visual composer à la Gutenberg, a middle-ground between WordPad editing interfa…

100% TRUE.

Also, a simple and workable e-cart

I tried many alternatives. Their upgrade path is painful.

Re: WordPress Alternatives

#103

If one is looking for a simple/personal blog and wants to write in plain-text Markdown, one should consider Jekyll on GitHub Pages[1]. The beauty is that one does not need to worry about setting up Jekyll on the local machine. Just write and push to Github. If one wants to skip that, just go to GitHub and write there; a version of VSCode is built in there. This also allows one to carry (take out) their content anywhe…

What do you do about images?

What about them? Git can store images just fine, even though it’s not optimized.

Re: WordPress Alternatives

#104

Special mention to Processwire. Worked with it a few years ago and really loved it at the time. https://processwire.com/ Craft is great but a bit slow in my tests. They have a really powerful e-commerce offer though and is really flexible.

Thanks for mentioning ProcessWire. I've heard of it but never looked. Just spent a couple of hours fiddling and I have to say - really like the look of this. Thank you for bringing it to my attention!

Re: WordPress Alternatives

#105
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I haven't used it since forever ago, but Lektor [0] is this weird in between. You need to be able to pip install and run `lektor serve` in the terminal but most else is done in the browser. [0] https://www.getlektor.com/

I used Lektor recently. I was OK but I found the editor UI awkward and things like tags and subjects difficult to manage, and there didn't seem to be much in the way of current support or a plugin ecosystem. Publishing directly to a server with Git push and only having html online was nice, though. I might go back to it. I switched to Wordpress but I blog so little it seems like overkill. AFAIK Lektor doesn't have a…

I used it not longer after it launched and it had (perhaps understandably) a lot of rough edges. I haven't bothered trying since I switched to Hugo.

Re: WordPress Alternatives

#107
WordPress is popular for the same reason Windows is popular. User Inertia, wide availability, widespread support, cheap.

WordPress is not bad, it has its purpose and works well. It's bad when you try to make it do things it wasn't meant to with dubious plugins. I made some money on WordPress and I understand why people started using it and why they still do. It's very hard to replicate the community support that took years to build.

Re: WordPress Alternatives

#108

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No idea where you are getting that from. It's used in production on plenty of sites.

"used in production" is not the same as being a serious wordpress alternative. Would bet that none of those production deployments are without some non-negligible developer time investment. On top of that (assuming that extra investment is possible / desirable) the abstractions layered on top of django are quite opaque and have a steep learning curve. Having to code standard CMS functionalities becomes an eye-rolling…

> "used in production" is not the same as being a serious wordpress alternative.

You only said you thought it wasn't ready for prime time, which I think a reasonable interpretation is that you were saying you didn't think it was ready for production use.

> Would bet that none of those production deployments are without some non-negligible developer time investment.

That's the thing, I think the time invested is pretty negligible. Especially when compared to maintaining wordpress and having to deal with plugin craziness.

> Having to code standard CMS functionalities becomes an eye-rolling exercise.

You only really have to setup models for pages, tags, categories etc, after that the editor is incredibly functional.

Re: WordPress Alternatives

#110

Special mention to Processwire. Worked with it a few years ago and really loved it at the time. https://processwire.com/ Craft is great but a bit slow in my tests. They have a really powerful e-commerce offer though and is really flexible.

ProcessWire is great and it’s the perfect example for the OP’s main criterion “can be downloaded, dropped onto a server, and you’ll have a website”! One great thing about it is that that’s also how you update it. Download new version, replace a single directory on the server, and you’ll have the new version.

For a WordPress alternative, however, ProcessWire is perhaps not batteries-included enough. Like many of the systems in this thread, it caters more to developers who want full control over their site. For someone who just needs a blog with maybe a contact form and wants to choose a nice “template” and be done with it, ProcessWire isn’t a good fit. While it has “site profiles”, it’s lacking a lot of traction in that area, as well as a consumer-oriented marketplace that’s nice to browse (screenshots, curation etc.).

But for anyone who wants to build something more complex, it’s a great choice. Cozy little community, too.

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