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Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by ptman »

mikae1 wrote: post #39
Brajeshwar wrote: post #23

If one is looking for a simple/personal blog and wants to write in plain-text Markdown, one should consider Jekyll on GitHub Pages[1]. The beauty is that one does not need to worry about setting up Jekyll on the local machine. Just write and push to Github. If one wants to skip that, just go to GitHub and write there; a version of VSCode is built in there. This also allows one to carry (take out) their content anywhe…

I wish more people came across https://getpublii.com as a middle ground between full-on SSG and a hosted CMS. It's so damn good at this point.

I took a new look at Publii. Recently more support for websites instead of blogs. Great!

But collaboration seems to be a problem. You can sync the workspace using dropbox or syncthing, but there can be conflicts on the sqlite database.

There is git support, but that just pushes the published page into git.

Are there no better interfaces for mortals to SSGs?

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by ThinkBeat »

I dont think the political rant on there is offputting and childish drama.

Having a world where ecochamber credentials and political adherens is as far from an open and inclusive society.

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by openrisk »

ruthmarx wrote: post #85
openrisk wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wagtail is really not ready for prime time, maybe by design. in some respects its easier to use the django admin...

No idea where you are getting that from. It's used in production on plenty of sites.

"used in production" is not the same as being a serious wordpress alternative. Would bet that none of those production deployments are without some non-negligible developer time investment.

On top of that (assuming that extra investment is possible / desirable) the abstractions layered on top of django are quite opaque and have a steep learning curve. Having to code standard CMS functionalities becomes an eye-rolling exercise.

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by openrisk »

lbbenjohnston wrote: post #90
openrisk wrote: post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

wagtail is really not ready for prime time, maybe by design. in some respects its easier to use the django admin...

I think Wagtail is better suited for sites that want a lot more control over the base HTML, page output and data models. WordPress may be a bit directly comparable to https://www.coderedcorp.com/cms/ It's just a few extensions on Wagtail that let you get started with common page models for blogging and generic websites out of the box. I often think of Wagtail as a framework for building your CMS, where as WordPress i…

I tried to like wagtail the way I love django but the chemistry didn't work out :-). Indeed I think its more suited for serious publishers that can dedicate the resource to build something major.

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by oddb0d »

Drupal is the dark horse here, especially with the new can-run-in-your-browser Drupal CMS, try it out here:

http://dgo.to/drupal_cms

Out-of-the-box you've got a responsive theme, built-in accessibility, multilingual capabilities, a security team, and the accumulation of 23 years of tried-and-tested code.

The efforts that are being put into this new product are making it as easy to use as any other CMS, which is a huge leap for Drupal.

Add into the equation things like the new AI initiative (http://dgo.to/artificial_intelligence_initiative) where you can literally configure the site through chat as founder of Drupal, Dries Buytaert, recently demonstrated asking AI to create a categorisation of wine tour events based on the top 20 wine regions (https://bit.ly/wine-tours-taxonomy) I have a feeling that, based on my 21 years of using it, I think Drupal's going to surprise quite a few people over the next year.

I don't just use it as a CMS, I leverage native commerce (http://dgo.to/commerce) and CRM (http://dgo.to/contacts) modules in order to have a fully integrated framework which, architecturally, enables me to create functionality that would be expensive if even possible using separate systems.

There's even a no-code suite Drupal ECA (http://dgo.to/eca).

I could go on...

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by slhck »

Since when is the WordPress ecosystem this … bad? I built WP websites 10-15 years ago and it was a quite straightforward experience back then. These days, there seems to be no around themes and plugins that all have very limited free versions, and constantly nag you about upgrading to the pro version, in a million different styles of banners and popups. Hosting providers have made it easier to deploy WordPress in a one-click manner, but anything beyond a basic page (sending email, backups, contact forms) already turns into a nightmare. No thanks!

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by timeon »

openrisk wrote: post #73

Its telling about the stagnation of Web technology that there isnt a real Wordpress alternative. You'd think that after all those decades there would be a modern, open source solution that offers the same and more functionality (not... less, looking at you SSG wanabees) but with a cleaner, safer and easier to use stack that is liked by both technical and non-technical people. Stands to reason that such a leap forward…

All modern solutions (including php+Laravel) are not possible to use on basic cheap shared hosting - where the most 'self-host' web still is.

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by DavidDarnes »

Hey there, author here.

Lots of good suggestions here, but a lot of them are for complex development stacks. My criteria was something that can be installed and ran without having to do much wiring up. That being said I do love me an SSG and content API, my own site is Eleventy hooked up to Ghost.

Also saw some suggestions like Drupal and Joomla, I may add these but from personal experience I've almost always been migrating away from them. There's a reason they're popular though.

Ps. Sorry if you got upset about the political spin, but it's not escapable. Tech is not exempt from politics.

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by timeon »

exodust wrote: post #45

> " I have not used Kirby in client work, but I hear only good things. " Not a great idea to recommend something based on hearsay. There's good & bad things to hear about any CMS. One inexplicable decision by the Kirby team was to push their politics by "taking a stand" against Twitter, suddenly cutting off their account. This leaves you wondering if Kirby is abandoned software since their top post is from Jan 2023 a…

> This leaves you wondering if Kirby is abandoned software since their top post is from Jan 2023 announcing version 3

Most people do not judge if software is abandoned based on Twitter, as most people do not have Twitter.

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