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Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by whyoh »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #23

If one is looking for a simple/personal blog and wants to write in plain-text Markdown, one should consider Jekyll on GitHub Pages[1]. The beauty is that one does not need to worry about setting up Jekyll on the local machine. Just write and push to Github. If one wants to skip that, just go to GitHub and write there; a version of VSCode is built in there. This also allows one to carry (take out) their content anywhe…

A blog without integrated commenting is not a proper blog, IMHO. And sure, you can add 3rd party commenting to a static page, but from what I've seen none of them are as good (or as free).

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by l2dy »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #23

If one is looking for a simple/personal blog and wants to write in plain-text Markdown, one should consider Jekyll on GitHub Pages[1]. The beauty is that one does not need to worry about setting up Jekyll on the local machine. Just write and push to Github. If one wants to skip that, just go to GitHub and write there; a version of VSCode is built in there. This also allows one to carry (take out) their content anywhe…

For personal blog, I have found the following alternatives:

- Chyrp Lite: lightweight blogging engine, written in PHP. https://github.com/xenocrat/chyrp-lite

- Typecho: a PHP-based blog software. https://github.com/typecho/typecho

and file-based static content generator:

- Quartz: Publish an Obsidian vault as a static site. https://github.com/jackyzha0/quartz

- Logseq: Publish a Logseq graph as a static site. https://github.com/logseq/publish-spa

also Jekyll templates:

- https://github.com/maximevaillancourt/digital-garden-jekyll-...

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by johnchristopher »

That list isn't deep enough. These are CMS alternatives, not WordPress alternatives.

I need a WordPress alternative to/with the following requirements:

- self-hostable

- opensource core (paid plugins are not a problem)

  - so it can be installed and intensively tested without shelling too much money just for R&D
- has ACF equivalent

- has a visual composer à la Gutenberg, a middle-ground between WordPad editing interface and Divi/Elementor

  - so the marketing/press department can push content fast
- REST API

  - to hydrate stuff
- optional: needs to have been around for 5 years

- optional: needs to still be around in 5 years

Ghost has no ACF apparently (https://forum.ghost.org/t/custom-fields-for-posts/1124/46 and https://github.com/TryGhost/Ghost/issues/9020) and Astro is too custom as of now and I don't want another Gatsby (too short-lived).

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by ruthmarx »

openrisk wrote: post #80
ruthmarx wrote: post #77

I'm a fan of Wagtail, built on Django. Much more setup to get configured, but it's far more customizable and stable once you do.

wagtail is really not ready for prime time, maybe by design. in some respects its easier to use the django admin...

No idea where you are getting that from. It's used in production on plenty of sites.

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by xNeil »

HermanMartinus wrote: post #64
oidar wrote: post #17

If you are looking for a no-nonsense, simple blog platform consider Bear[1] - It's super simple to use, and has been solid for me for the past year. Plus the support (and dev - Herman Martinus here on HN[2]) is responsive and friendly. [1] https://bearblog.dev [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=HermanMartinus

Thanks for the shoutout! For clarity, as a sibling comment has pointed out: while Bear is open-source, it is a platform and not managed hosting of individual blogs. If you're interested in self-hosting something that looks like Bear, there's a free Hugo template[1]. If you're happy using a platform, then Bear is super fast and built with longevity in mind (at both the tech and organisational level). [1] https://theme…

Sharing the Hugo theme is a great move Herman. I'll be starting a Bearblog now, all thanks to this comment.

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by openrisk »

threatofrain wrote: post #75
openrisk wrote: post #73

Its telling about the stagnation of Web technology that there isnt a real Wordpress alternative. You'd think that after all those decades there would be a modern, open source solution that offers the same and more functionality (not... less, looking at you SSG wanabees) but with a cleaner, safer and easier to use stack that is liked by both technical and non-technical people. Stands to reason that such a leap forward…

It's not about web technology, it's about popularity. It's like saying it's damning to technology that we don't have a serious YouTube contender. People don't just want technology, they want to be on the most popular thing. There are consequences to popularity. For example, if you need help it's a lot easier to find both self-help guides and technical people to help you. There are a lot more extensions or 3rd-party t…

Yes, I agree there is the popularity / network effects barrier. But when the advantage offered by technology is irresistible these barriers can be overcome. Tiktok is case in point and arguably it has become a pretty serious youtube contender (whether one likes the implications or not...)

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by whyoh »

pabs3 wrote: post #6

Switching to a static site generator seems like the way to go for lots of sites, especially blog-only ones. Are there any graphical SSGs that non-technical users could run locally to generate a site and upload it to their web host?

>especially blog-only ones

I disagree. I think a blog should have comments. And I've yet to see a commenting system for static sites that is free and that works as well as WordPress.

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by lbbenjohnston »

openrisk wrote: post #80
ruthmarx wrote: post #77

I'm a fan of Wagtail, built on Django. Much more setup to get configured, but it's far more customizable and stable once you do.

wagtail is really not ready for prime time, maybe by design. in some respects its easier to use the django admin...

I think Wagtail is better suited for sites that want a lot more control over the base HTML, page output and data models.

WordPress may be a bit directly comparable to https://www.coderedcorp.com/cms/

It's just a few extensions on Wagtail that let you get started with common page models for blogging and generic websites out of the box.

I often think of Wagtail as a framework for building your CMS, where as WordPress is a pre-built CMS.

Disclaimer: I'm on the Wagtail core team.

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