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Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

i2infinity wrote: post #294
rapsey wrote: post #225

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Waymos however need thousands of dollars of hardware to achieve this and only work in limited areas. Tesla's bet is a lot more risky but also with a lot more potential.

I wouldn’t step into a Tesla robotaxi in bad weather, period. They’d absolutely need a human remotely operating it. Without a steering wheel, passengers can’t take control even if they wanted to. Even in good weather, I’d be genuinely surprised if Teslas, in their current form, could drive around autonomously. I was really hoping Musk would mention new sensors being added for extra safety, maybe spinning it as: “Your…

can multiple operators from India operate the robotaxis or does it need one on one operation? I mean consider the savings!

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by modeless »

nikcub wrote: post #41

Here's an idea - take the Robocab car design, strip out all the FSD/autopilot stuff, put in a steering wheel and dash and sell it starting at the end of the year for ~$25k. It would sell +++

It has no rear window and wacky doors and only two seats. It would not sell. It's purpose built as an autonomous taxi, where those choices make perfect sense.

They are also doing a $25k car, they just aren't revealing it today.

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Post by sangnoir »

echoangle wrote: post #223
cryptoegorophy wrote: post #78

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What?? What if you don’t close it and just leave? I mean this will happen.

Well they know who booked the ride, so they will probably charge you for it or block you from riding again.

They'd also have multi-camera high definition video and a LIDAR point cloud of the rider not closing the door and walking away.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by linotype »

spiderfarmer wrote: post #331
davedx wrote: post #314

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Also: > “The autonomous vehicles, we’re going to stop from operating on American roads, remember this,” Trump said.

Well, apart from tax cuts for the rich he never followed through with anything he said and his voters will never hold him accountable for anything, ever, so you can safely ignore every thing he says.

Abortion is now illegal in dozens of states.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by modeless »

Yoric wrote: post #370
modeless wrote: post #298

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There are more than enough on the road already to know exactly how safe they are. FSD has already driven a billion miles. Once it is good enough they will have the statistics to prove it.

It's interesting, because FSD has probably driven a billion miles, but I couldn't find any useful statistics yet. So... I think it's a bit early to start believing the hype :)

It is far from good enough today, no doubt. But the rate of improvement is what matters, and from personal experience I believe it is quite high. I do wish Tesla would release some better statistics.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by garyfirestorm »

pr337h4m wrote: post #330
fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #266

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The idea that Tesla would win the robotaxi race by not needing LiDAR died sometime between when LiDAR cost $100k and when it cost $1k. Now it’s just Elon being intransigent.

Humans don’t use lidar, which clearly shows that a vision-only robotaxi is very much feasible.

Humans don’t have radar, or thermal cameras, or ultrasonic sensors, doesn’t mean planes and boats shouldn’t use those

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by gniv »

pr337h4m wrote: post #330
fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #266

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The idea that Tesla would win the robotaxi race by not needing LiDAR died sometime between when LiDAR cost $100k and when it cost $1k. Now it’s just Elon being intransigent.

Humans don’t use lidar, which clearly shows that a vision-only robotaxi is very much feasible.

Think of pile-ups. No matter how good a driver you are there are situations where you cannot prevent crashing. But lidar can.

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Post by karel-3d »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #371
i2infinity wrote: post #294

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I wouldn’t step into a Tesla robotaxi in bad weather, period. They’d absolutely need a human remotely operating it. Without a steering wheel, passengers can’t take control even if they wanted to. Even in good weather, I’d be genuinely surprised if Teslas, in their current form, could drive around autonomously. I was really hoping Musk would mention new sensors being added for extra safety, maybe spinning it as: “Your…

can multiple operators from India operate the robotaxis or does it need one on one operation? I mean consider the savings!

The latency will kill you.

Both figuratively and literally.

Maybe something like Mexico would be better.

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Post by kmlx »

rswail wrote: post #254
thefourthchime wrote: post #212

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I think you're ignoring the fact that Chinese manufacturers are heavily tariffed in the west

Heavily tariffed in the US, no tariffs in AU/NZ/Asia. EU is imposing tariffs depending on the manufacturer's co-operation with cost investigations.

No special tariffs in the UK also.

Re: Tesla Robotaxi

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Post by TheAlchemist »

It's important to remember when this event was announced. It was announced in April, when stock was plunging following a Reuters report that a cheap Model 2 was cancelled.

Musk called them liars and announced on the spot the event that we witnessed today (which was postponed from the initial 8/8 date...).

That's what fraud looks like folks.

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