Will be interesting to review this in 5-10 years to see how many of these are still viable and whether there's a fashion tax to pay by having to switch.
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#72> " I have not used Kirby in client work, but I hear only good things. " Not a great idea to recommend something based on hearsay. There's good & bad things to hear about any CMS. One inexplicable decision by the Kirby team was to push their politics by "taking a stand" against Twitter, suddenly cutting off their account. This leaves you wondering if Kirby is abandoned software since their top post is from Jan 2023 a…
> > "Statamic.... I think if the cofounder hadn't brazenly endorsed a horrendously damaging politician, I'd have tried it."
> All aboard the facepalm express. Is it too much to ask to keep politics out of software recommendations and social media version announcement updates?
One on hand (the business side and the being-a-professional side), I do agree, on the other hand (ethics ?) I disagree that tech should get a free pass regarding political concerns. Overall, I think this sentence could have been phrased more professionally/politely, 14yo sarcasm is annoying. Something like "I can't recommend Statamic for personal reasons." (I know it's still a political statement but it feels less childish and more personal). I know it's a meta and larger debate and that HN as a whole wants/needs (to maintain its level of discussion) to talk about tech without the political implications or concerns but these concerns are still there, I think hinting at it is okay, making it the whole talk is annoying for everyone. /meta
> All aboard the facepalm express.
That still puts a smile on my face 15 minutes later :D
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#73Its telling about the stagnation of Web technology that there isnt a real Wordpress alternative.
You'd think that after all those decades there would be a modern, open source solution that offers the same and more functionality (not... less, looking at you SSG wanabees) but with a cleaner, safer and easier to use stack that is liked by both technical and non-technical people.
Stands to reason that such a leap forward in web publishing should be technically possible (the requirements are clear and dont need AGI) but there is also some truth in the saying "its the economy stupid, thats why you can't have good things": There is no economic incentive in this direction in the modern digital landscape.
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#74I used Craft for years for All About Berlin. I edit this website for a living and Craft served me really well. It was an elegant way to set a content structure and proved quite flexible in that regard.
Eventually I switched to a custom-made SSG because clicking around an admin area is very slow, and because of serious bugs with the WYSIWYG editor led to content loss that was very hard to fix. Editing plain text with familiar purpose-built software, and deploying with source control and branches is incredibly valuable.
I wrote more about the reason and benefits of the switch here: https://nicolasbouliane.com/projects/ursus
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#75Its telling about the stagnation of Web technology that there isnt a real Wordpress alternative. You'd think that after all those decades there would be a modern, open source solution that offers the same and more functionality (not... less, looking at you SSG wanabees) but with a cleaner, safer and easier to use stack that is liked by both technical and non-technical people. Stands to reason that such a leap forward…
It's not about web technology, it's about popularity. It's like saying it's damning to technology that we don't have a serious YouTube contender. People don't just want technology, they want to be on the most popular thing.
There are consequences to popularity. For example, if you need help it's a lot easier to find both self-help guides and technical people to help you. There are a lot more extensions or 3rd-party tooling. Even if there are exploits there are a lot more eyes on the problem and fixes come sooner.
So there are other WordPress alternatives, they're just less popular with all the consequences that come with being a minority player.
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#76Any recommendations for a self hosted back-end that is images, photography only? Instagram seems to have taken over this space.
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#77I'm a fan of Wagtail, built on Django.
Much more setup to get configured, but it's far more customizable and stable once you do.
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#78Cross-posting here:
I can highly recommend Wagtail CMS:
It’s based on Python/Django and has an excellent developer and user experience. They pay a lot of attention to detail, including a block-based content editor, similar to Gutenberg, and first class accessibility support.
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#79> " I have not used Kirby in client work, but I hear only good things. " Not a great idea to recommend something based on hearsay. There's good & bad things to hear about any CMS. One inexplicable decision by the Kirby team was to push their politics by "taking a stand" against Twitter, suddenly cutting off their account. This leaves you wondering if Kirby is abandoned software since their top post is from Jan 2023 a…
> Is it too much to ask to keep politics out of software recommendations and social media version announcement updates?
Frankly, yes. Things have become so bad that the more people taking a stand and showing they don't support a party that has no issue with racism, sexism, misogyny and various other kinds of bigotry, the better. Sitting on the sidelines shouldn't be an option for most ethical people based in the US, IMO.
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#80I'm a fan of Wagtail, built on Django. Much more setup to get configured, but it's far more customizable and stable once you do.
wagtail is really not ready for prime time, maybe by design. in some respects its easier to use the django admin...