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Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by pbowyer »

exodust wrote: post #45

> " I have not used Kirby in client work, but I hear only good things. " Not a great idea to recommend something based on hearsay. There's good & bad things to hear about any CMS. One inexplicable decision by the Kirby team was to push their politics by "taking a stand" against Twitter, suddenly cutting off their account. This leaves you wondering if Kirby is abandoned software since their top post is from Jan 2023 a…

More the problem with Kirby is the admin still using Vue 2, so if you use Vue 3 for everything else and want to make a plugin, you have to go back to how you used to write Vue and no longer do.

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by shubhamjain »

marcosscriven wrote: post #34
Brajeshwar wrote: post #23

If one is looking for a simple/personal blog and wants to write in plain-text Markdown, one should consider Jekyll on GitHub Pages[1]. The beauty is that one does not need to worry about setting up Jekyll on the local machine. Just write and push to Github. If one wants to skip that, just go to GitHub and write there; a version of VSCode is built in there. This also allows one to carry (take out) their content anywhe…

What do you do about images?

If you don't mind paying a few bucks a month, you can give my service [1] a try. I actually designed it with that specific use-case in mind. Handling images is the biggest PITA for static-site generators.

There are other image CDNs (Cloudinary, Imagekit, Imgix) but they have been designed for developers and are prohibitively expensive beyond their free-tier.

[1]: https://magecdn.com/

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by bigiain »

qingcharles wrote: post #41
keiferski wrote: post #22

For developers, there are many alternatives, but for the vast majority of use cases, there really aren’t any. WordPress is popular because it’s a dead simple way to make a website that doesn’t require any technical skills - and has been this dead simple solution for almost the last two decades. Most of the popular hosts come with WP installed, so there is no need to install software on a server (a fairly “technical”…

Plus the large plugin library.

For us, it's the huge existing user base of people who know how to do authoring/publishing in WordPress. (Even if they don't have the skills to understand what they're doing installing plugins sensibly, we mostly don't hand over Admin role accounts ion we don't have to.)

I don't want to hand hold a small business owner through writing markdown or how to commit to git to get their homepage edited. I want to be able to tell them "Just ask around your staff or family or friends, someone will know how to update your wordpress site, or one of them will at least know somebody who can. Failing that, go to your local craft/hipster coffee place and ask anyone with a laptop open for suggestions."

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by HermanMartinus »

oidar wrote: post #17

If you are looking for a no-nonsense, simple blog platform consider Bear[1] - It's super simple to use, and has been solid for me for the past year. Plus the support (and dev - Herman Martinus here on HN[2]) is responsive and friendly. [1] https://bearblog.dev [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=HermanMartinus

Thanks for the shoutout!

For clarity, as a sibling comment has pointed out: while Bear is open-source, it is a platform and not managed hosting of individual blogs. If you're interested in self-hosting something that looks like Bear, there's a free Hugo template[1].

If you're happy using a platform, then Bear is super fast and built with longevity in mind (at both the tech and organisational level).

[1]https://themes.gohugo.io/themes/hugo-bearblog/

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Post by minimaxir »

Brajeshwar wrote: post #23

If one is looking for a simple/personal blog and wants to write in plain-text Markdown, one should consider Jekyll on GitHub Pages[1]. The beauty is that one does not need to worry about setting up Jekyll on the local machine. Just write and push to Github. If one wants to skip that, just go to GitHub and write there; a version of VSCode is built in there. This also allows one to carry (take out) their content anywhe…

You can use Hugo with GitHub Pages, you just need to use a GitHub Action to trigger the deploy on a new commit, luckily there's an official workflow: https://gohugo.io/hosting-and-deployment/hosting-on-github/

My personal Hugo-based blog for reference: https://github.com/minimaxir/minimaxir.github.io

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Post by p4bl0 »

There's an obvious actual alternative to WordPress that's missing here: Dotclear. When I say "actual alternative" I mean a web based blog engine rather than something entirely different like a static site generator that transpile markdown files into HTML web page and an RSS feed from the command line that you then have to rsync to your server or make use of the continuous integration service of a software forge to rebuild on the server side. I'm not saying this is a bad workflow, just that I don't feel it really counts as an alternative to WordPress for most people (you know, non-technical people).

I ended up using Dotclear for my own personal blog after years of using home-made blog engines. By default, I was going for WordPress initially, but configuring it and creating a custom theme that looked like I wanted it to look like was a mess. I felt like I had to learn a whole new technology stack instead of being able to use my PHP, HTML, and CSS skills. In comparison, Dotclear was a breeze to work with, and after days scratching my head on the complexity of WordPress, it took me maybe like two hours to get where I wanted with Dotclear, including the time to discover and installing the software. I enjoy it very much since then!

See https://dotclear.org/ for more information.

Anecdoticaly, Dotclear is older than WordPress (2002 vs 2003) :).

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by wordofx »

marcosscriven wrote: post #34
Brajeshwar wrote: post #23

If one is looking for a simple/personal blog and wants to write in plain-text Markdown, one should consider Jekyll on GitHub Pages[1]. The beauty is that one does not need to worry about setting up Jekyll on the local machine. Just write and push to Github. If one wants to skip that, just go to GitHub and write there; a version of VSCode is built in there. This also allows one to carry (take out) their content anywhe…

What do you do about images?

Host them on GitHub.

Re: WordPress Alternatives

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Post by egeozcan »

julienmarie wrote: post #5

Special mention to Processwire. Worked with it a few years ago and really loved it at the time. https://processwire.com/ Craft is great but a bit slow in my tests. They have a really powerful e-commerce offer though and is really flexible.

Totally agree! Processwire is super simple for simple things and is super extensible if you need anything custom. There's nothing I couldn't do with it and PHP isn't even remotely my language of choice. It gets the job done with tremendous flexibility.
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